Mike,

This all sounds about right to me too (see comment below).

Comments:

I have not seen data that proves the VCC island around oscillators
is better or worse than a solid plane.  Some processor manufacturers
recommend this approach for the PLL power and return
references, and they recommend that filtering be used
between +3.3V and PLL +3.3V.  I have tried both approaches
on the same design and there didn't seem to be any difference
between product performance or EMI from the processor board,
so it didn't prove anything one way or the other.

I am not in favor of an island with no necked down area (a complete
island) because the retun current loops are difficult to mimimize
or mange (nature does a better job!).  With a necked
down area, the case can be made that as long as ALL signals
are routed over the  necked area and the neck is wide enough
(ie, the signals effectively "see" an infinite return plane),
then loop areas can be managed.  Obviously, the wider the neck,
the lower impedance the return path (the more the signal lines
see what looks like an infinite return plane), and the easier it is to 
route.

But this leads to the limiting case that the widest neck is no neck at all,
which is exactly what one has with a solid ground/VCC plane.  So
theoretically and philisophically, the case can be made that
a solid plane is still the ideal method of minimizing ground
bounce and common mode noise from signal return currents.

Looking at it another way, the island approach sets up the situation
of a noisy area (the oscillator island) electrically separated from
the quiet area (the main VCC/ground plane) by an impedance (the
ferrites or narrow necked down area).  This is the model for a
dipole structure, which is what we want to avoid.  This is also the
model for the noisy logic ground/clean chassis ground design
used in a number of products.  I have used this approach successfully
at a prior company but always wondered if my designs would have
been even better by defining only one return reference and referencing
to chassis everywhere I could.

Back to the specific case of the oscillator island,
it could be that the unintended parasitic capacitance that Mike
refers to is the only thing that saves one's butt when one tries to
implement the island approach.  I would suspect that the majority
of the parasitic capacitance is formed from the voltage plane to the logic
return plane and back to the island voltage plane rather than directly
from the voltage plane to the island voltage plane since geometrically,
this is where all of the plate area and the smallest plate spacing
are created.

Since I am a victim of the 50/50 rule (I am probably wrong
as often as right), it would be nice to see some empirical data to back
up this conjecture.  Anyone know of a good study by objective
researchers which proves the concept one way or another?

Regards,
[email protected]

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From: mikev
To: mkelson
Cc: emc-pstc
Subject: Re: RFI problems with PC's ...
List-Post: [email protected]
Date: Monday, April 15, 1996 1:35PM

Hi Max,

Multi-point grounding of PCB to metal chassis is a good idea.

The beneficial effect of the multi-point connection of the PCB to a
metal chassis is to reduce the net impedance associated with the
return currents for  signals flowing on the PCB. The impedance decrease
provides a lower voltage generated across the printed circuit board,
thus reducing the common mode present on the various circuit nodes on
the board.

This is especially critical as frequencies rise, regardless of the
concern often raised about (the red herring of) "ground loops".

In fact, one of my pet peeves, as it were, are "low noise designs"
that use "isolation"--segregated Vcc/0V structures--to keep noise
from coupling between areas of the circuitry.

It is common to see high frequency circuits on PCBs separated with
ferrite beads and having isolated, DC-coupled 0V planes. Often, the
oscillator is designed with its own Vcc/0V island.

The fallacies of this approach are as follows:

1. Intentionally segregating the Vcc/0V structures drives up the
impedance in return paths, creating RF voltages at the
isolation element (be it a ferrite bead in Vcc or a 'necked down' area
in the 0V plane). The net effect is to produce a common mode voltages in
series with every signal line that is associated with "isolated"
area.

When you route a conductor off of the isolated area, this common mode
voltage is a high frequency "ripple" on the conductor.

2. At RF, the circuits are coupled anyway! The parasitic capacitance
between circuits negates the notion of high frequency isolation.

Of the sixty or so examples of this "design" implementation we have seen 
over
the past year or
two, the performance during radiated emissions is always troublesome.

I'd welcome comments on this subject.

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