Richard,

Be careful . . . UL 1950 3rd Ed, Section 4.3.12, "Equipment that can
generate ionizing radiation or ultraviolet light, or that uses a laser . .
." does make a reference to IEC 825-1 BUT it is
has a line through it. It is a D1 deviation. You are then refered to Annex
NAE where 4.3.12 now references for the US (NEC) 21 CFR 1040 (which is
eseentially the same as ANSI Z136.1) where
LEDs are not required to be evaluated.
21 CFR 1040 is undergoing a revision which harmonizes it with EN 60825.
However, the CDRH will not be including LEDs. THere has been no evidence
that LEDs have caused  injuries.

-John Juhasz-
Fiber Options
Bohemia, NY


-----Original Message-----
From: wo...@sensormatic.com [mailto:wo...@sensormatic.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 1:43 PM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: RE: Products with high power LEDs



Actually, the concern is worldwide. It starts with IEC 60825-1 which covers
emissions from lasers and LEDs. IEC 950 has a normative reference to IEC 825
(an earlier revision of IEC 60825-1). IEC950 says that the national members
are encouraged to apply the latest revisions of the normative references. UL
1950 references IEC 825-1:1993 which has the same LED requirements as IEC
60825-1.

Richard Woods

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        From:  Gary McInturff [SMTP:gmcintu...@telect.com]
        Sent:  Wednesday, December 08, 1999 12:08 PM
        To:  'geor...@lexmark.com'; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
        Subject:  RE: Products with high power LEDs


        Can somebody tell me what Europe's concern is with the LED's. I
understand
        the hazards of laser's, wavelength, power, durations et al but I
don't know
        what Europe is trying to protect. 
        If this was just recently discussed please forgive the
transgression. I have
        been sitting in those flying horizontal aluminum tubes for the last
week and
        have been unable to actually read any of these e-mails. Certainly,
you can
        respond to me directly rather than the list.
        Thanks
        Gary

                        -----Original Message-----
                        From:   geor...@lexmark.com
[mailto:geor...@lexmark.com]
                        Sent:   Wednesday, December 08, 1999 5:26 AM
                        To:     emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
                        Subject:        RE: Products with high power LEDs


                        > Assume a business product with a high power LED
for use in
        the EU and that
                        > it operates at 230V. It will be subject to the Low
Voltage
        Directive, so
                        > EN60950 and EN60825-1 would apply. Now assume a
similar
        product but it
                        > operates at 24V. The LVD would not apply in this
case.
        What are the legal
                        > compliance requirements for the LED output?
                        >

                        The Low Voltage Directive is definitely applicable
for the
        230V configuration.
                        A 24V device is SELV, and has no potential for
electric
        shock.  If its input
                        power is limited to under 100VA, it does not require
a fire
        enclosure per
                        EN 60950.  So, the only major safety issue remaining
is
        possible exposure to
                        the laser under fault conditions.

                        EN 60825-1 (as I recall) has nothing to do with the
voltage
        required to power
                        the host equipment.  So it applies in either case.

                        George Alspaugh
                        Lexmark International



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