Bonjour de Montréal,
My sources of information is Art Wall from the FCC who actually negotiated the agreement with Taiwan, Mr. Ming-Der Wu, Director of the 3rd Department at BSMI and also the Canadian Trade Office in Taiwan. I guess these are pretty good sources.
See other comments below, At 23:17 11/28/2000 +0800, Koh Nai Ghee wrote:
Benoit, I'm particular interested in your paragraph 2 : "2) The USA listed laboratories in the BSMI site could only test American products. So Canadian or Israeli manufacturer could not use this avenue to get the BSMI approval. This have been confirm by the BSMI Official and the FCC. The wording of their letter of agreement clearly states that." When did this pieces of news was announced? Is it from by BSMI or just from your test lab?
From what I know it has never been officially announced and I know many US based test laboratories who do not even know about this.
It will be good to know the source of this information/news. I know that test report (in BSMI format) is required for submitting BSMI application. Does this means the manufacturer of the product must test at their local test labs?
Not if you are in a country that has designated laboratories.
If there's no local accredited test lab, is it a must to sent to Taiwan labs for testing?
It seems so...
What if a product is deisgn & manufacturered in country A (does not have any accredited lab) and sent for testing in USA accredited test lab via their USA branch office. Is this approach still possible?
I can not really answer that question it really depends of the Taiwan interpretation of the
Regards Koh Benoit Nadeau wrote: > Bonjour de Montréal, > > I can share with you the latest experience I have with BSMI. > > First, KTL is the only one in North America to be accredited for > Korean regulations, not Taiwan. In fact, they are not accredited for > BSMI as any other Canadian Laboratory until Canada sign a Mutual > Recognition Agreement (MRA) with Taiwan. > > 2) The USA listed laboratories in the BSMI site could only test > American products. So Canadian or Israeli manufacturer could not use > this avenue to get the BSMI approval. This have been confirm by the > BSMI Official and the FCC. The wording of their letter of agreement > clearly states that. > > 3) For other countries laboratories listed on the BSMI Web site (from > Germany, UK the Netherlands and Singapore), I don't know if they have > the same constraints, but according to the conversations we had with > BSMI officials, they possibly will lose their accreditation since the > BSMI wants to follow the MRA route for any laboratory outside Taiwan. > Since they are still listed in the BSMI Web site, I presumed that this > is still to come and that they are still active to deliver test > reports but may be for their own market. Bad news for the European > countries, Taiwan does not recognize the European union so every > country has to get in line to negotiated a separate MRA. > > 4) The only route right now for any other countries is to test in > Taiwan. > > 5) Even if you test anywhere, you still have to produce a test report > that is going to be examined by BSMI. The experience we got is that > their are very specific in the amount of detail that they want in the > report. If you were familiar with the old FCC certification process, > you have top follow that but with a lot more details. For instance > they like to see an actual copy of the intended label or at least the > exact dimensions. > > I hope that this information will be useful for you. > > Best regards, > > > Benoît Nadeau > > At 13:55 11/27/2000 +0200, Peter Merguerian wrote: > > >> Hello All, >> >> What's the latest on BCIQ? >> >> 1. Is KTL Ottawa still the only authorized lab outside Taiwan? >> >> 2. What is the fastest way to get the approval? >> >> 3. Is safety required by BCIQ? If so, what is acceptable (CB Test >> Report, >> UL Listing Report, CE Self Declaration file....). >> >> Looking forward to your responses. >> Peter Merguerian >> Managing Director >> Product Testing Division >> I.T.L. (Product Testing) Ltd. >> Hacharoshet 26, POB 211 >> Or Yehuda 60251, Israel >> >> Tel: 972-3-5339022 Fax: 972-3-5339019 >> e-mail: [email protected] >> website: http://www.itl.co.il >> >> TO LEARN ABOUT AUSTRALIAN AND NEW ZEALAND REQUIREMENTS, CONTACT ME >> AT THE >> EARLIEST STAGES OF YOUR DESIGN; REQUIREMENTS CAN BE TRICKY! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------- >> This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety >> Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. >> >> To cancel your subscription, send mail to: >> [email protected] >> with the single line: >> unsubscribe emc-pstc >> >> For help, send mail to the list administrators: >> Jim Bacher: [email protected] >> Michael Garretson: [email protected] >> >> For policy questions, send mail to: >> Richard Nute: [email protected] > > ---------------------------- > --------------------------------------------- > Benoît Nadeau, ing. M.ing (P.eng., M.eng.) > Conformity Group Manager > Matrox > 1055, boul. St-Regis > Dorval (Québec) > Canada H9P 2T4 > Tel: (514) 822-6000 (x2475) > Fax: (514) 822-6275 > <http://www.matrox.com> > > Chairman > 2001 IEEE EMC International Symposium on > Electromagnetic Compatibility > Montreal August 13 to 17, 2001 > <http://www.2001emcmtl.org> ------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: [email protected] with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: [email protected] Michael Garretson: [email protected] For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: [email protected]
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