actually, with the judges i've seen you would fit right in as an unfair and
partial to his own interests type of judge.

Jim Freeman


"Maxwell, Chris" wrote:

> Maybe the only thing in need of calibration here is our collective
> conscience and our speedometers.
>
> I thought the purpose of laws, radar guns, speeding tickets ... was for the
> public good, not so that we could invent the most clever way to avoid
> getting caught.  It may be an interesting intellectual exercise, but I don't
> know if it's worth the effort.  I also don't know if it merits the attention
> of this forum.
>
> If I were a judge, I'd start charging by the hour if I had to listen to all
> sorts of "what if" scenarios.  If the "what if's" didn't pan out, I'd triple
> the fine just for wasting my time.  (I guess that's why I'm not a judge :-)
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Price, Ed [SMTP:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 8:04 PM
> > To:   'Peter Merguerian'; [email protected]
> > Subject:      RE: Speed Measuring Devices
> >
> >
> > Peter:
> >
> > The best chance to win is through a technicality. Look for errors on the
> > officer's report; time, date, road conditions, traffic, license #. Also,
> > there's the possibility that the officer may not show up in court, and you
> > win by default.
> >
> > If you search the web about "police radar", you will find several sites
> > which offer detailed commentary on the legal points of officer training,
> > experience, observation of the infraction, etc. Unfortunately, this may
> > all
> > have little bearing on Isreali civil jurisdiction.
> >
> > BTW, USA radars come with a printed, signed C of C attesting to the
> > calibration. No idea what the recommended cal interval is. I have a Kustom
> > K-1 X-band unit, and it also came with a little tuning fork (also with
> > it's
> > own C of C). When struck, and held in front of the radar horn, the fork
> > tines physically move back and forth at a velocity equal to 50 MPH. Thus,
> > a
> > field check simply involves striking the fork and demonstrating an
> > indicated
> > 50 MPH.
> >
> > FWIW, I have never had this unit read incorrectly. It's sensitive enough
> > to
> > clock a car at one kilometer, or a human walking at about 200 meters. I
> > have
> > deliberately tried to induce error in it with a cell phone, amateur
> > 2-meter
> > 7 watt transceiver and a 5 watt CB 11-meter transceiver. (Guess you don't
> > want this testimony!)
> >
> > I have always thought, if I felt like really sticking my neck out, that I
> > would try to get the radar unit impounded as evidence until the trial.
> > After
> > all, the ultimate witness against you is one person swearing that they
> > operated a meter correctly. That meter is now evidence against you, and
> > it's
> > condition must be preserved for your inspection at trial. (If a pistol is
> > obtained from an investigation scene, it's impounded as evidence. So why
> > not
> > a Doppler radar?)
> >
> > The tactic here isn't fair; it's economic blackmail. A radar is sold to a
> > municipality as a an enforcement tool, which just happens to pay for
> > itself
> > and go on making bundles of bucks (shekels?) How long till your trial? How
> > long will the municipality be denied the use of the radar? How much money
> > per day? How many continuations can you get? Your hope is that they decide
> > that you aren't worth the loss of the revenue stream.
> >
> > Let us know if you need to change you email address for a while. <grin>
> >
> > Ed
> >
> >
> > Ed  Price
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> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Peter Merguerian [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 6:28 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Speed Measuring Devices
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear All,
> >
> > Yes, I did get a speeding ticket today! I am not sure if I was speeding or
> > not - I do not have my eyes on the speedometer all the time! I asked the
> > policewoman to show me the calibration certificate on her speed measuring
> > gun. She did not know what I was talking about! I inspected the gun and
> > did
> > not see any stickers on it.
> >
> > I plan to go to court and attempt to convince the judge that the speeding
> > gun was not calibrated and/or the gun's measurement data may have been
> > affected by emissions from another device.
> >
> > Can anyone in the calibration business send me professional opinions on
> > the
> > methods and reasons for calibrating speeding guns?
> >
> > What is the best way to present this case in court?
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