I have heard of several people fighting a ticket with claims of the radar gun
not working or being used right. In all cases they lost (all people I know).  I
wish you luck and please let us know how it turned out.

Looking at it from their side, if a Judge ruled that the radar (or laser) guns
are not reliable that would open a BIG can of worms. Everyone that gets a
speeding ticket will try to fight it. Hey, that might be a good idea. If
everyone fought their cases in court then all the police will be tied up in
court all day and wouldn't be able to give out ticket.  Also, if they knew
writing a ticket would result in them going to court maybe they would think
twice about it. (Never mind me, just dreaming.)

Here is maybe some good advice... My brother in law is a truck driver. Speeding
tickets to him means he could lose his license and his job.  When he gets a
ticket he contacts his lawyer. His lawyer contacts the courthouse and they
plea-bargain down to a lesser charge. Usually it ends up to be a "Non-Moving"
violation which doesn't add points to his license.  He has found that they will
plea-bargain because they don't want you to go to court, they don't want to pay
the police officer to sit in court, they don't really want to mess with you.

Now the cost of dealing with a lawyer is not cheap, but it keeps him on the road
and it saves him lots of money on his insurance which is always more than the
ticket.

Something to think about.

Brian


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Subject:    RE: Speed Measuring Devices 
Author: "Bailey  Jeff" <[email protected]> 
List-Post: [email protected]
Date:       11/16/00 12:55 PM


Hi Peter,

I am by no means an expert on this subject but I believe they use a tuning
fork 
to calibrate the standard radar guns (the ones based on Doppler shift) so
you
may have asked to see the cal cert for the tuning fork.  I think the police 
usually calibrate there standard guns daily and if she did not even know
what
you were talking about when you mentioned the cal cert she may not even know
what it means to calibrate something so you may be able to make a case on
that.

If you were pinched with one of the laser radar guns you may be into a
tighter
spot and I have no idea how often or even how they calibrate those nasty
guns.

Good luck, and don't crack under the pressure when the judge is glaring at
you!

:-)

Jeff Bailey 
Compliance Engineering 
SST - A Division of Woodhead Canada 
Phone: (519) 725 5136 ext. 363 
Fax: (519) 725 1515 
Email: [email protected] 
Web: www.sstech.on.ca 

All comments contained in the message are my own and do not necessarily
express the views of SST/Woodhead Canada Limited. 



-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Merguerian [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 9:28 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Speed Measuring Devices



Dear All,

Yes, I did get a speeding ticket today! I am not sure if I was speeding or
not - I do not have my eyes on the speedometer all the time! I asked the
policewoman to show me the calibration certificate on her speed measuring
gun. She did not know what I was talking about! I inspected the gun and did
not see any stickers on it.

I plan to go to court and attempt to convince the judge that the speeding
gun was not calibrated and/or the gun's measurement data may have been
affected by emissions from another device.

Can anyone in the calibration business send me professional opinions on the
methods and reasons for calibrating speeding guns? 

What is the best way to present this case in court?
Peter Merguerian
Managing Director
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