Duncan,

I've had the scenario with my end product (very simple product - metal
enclosure, SELV printed circuit, 
150W Recognized component Power Supply, Recognized Input module. That's it.)

I had it listed with NRTL B. Market pressure forced me to get NRTL A's
listing mark - 
to the same standard. NRTL A would not accept ANY data (not just test data,
even part 
number info - I had to send the complete package again). 

While I don't like to pay twice for the same thing, and while I was exposed
to
what amounted to be different interpretations (between the NRTLs) of the
specifications
causing great frustration . . . I looked at it from a different point of
view.

Don't get me wrong, I do sympathize with you, and I wish they had an MRA
between 
them - it would save a lot of time, money, and frustration . . . but I can
see 
NRTL A's point.

If a customer came to me with a product and wanted it listed with my mark, 
before I put MY mark on it (which, historically, most consumers consider a
quality
indicator) I would make damn sure that the product was compliant, lest I
incur
the wrath if it fails. I wouldn't take anyone's word for it (report or not) 
and rubber stamp it.


John Juhasz
Fiber Options
Bohemia, NY



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 6:58 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Got another beef about an NRTL....



Group,

 What about another scenario that I have been in with two NRTL's. 
For the sake of embarrassment,lets call them 'NRTL A' and 'NRTL B'

Firstly any components or equipment recognised or listed by an NRTL are
deemed
'acceptable' to OSHA so long as it is used as prescribed in its conditions
of
acceptability or use. so can I presume that as OSHA accepts any NRTL mark
they
are all of equal standing.

Why is it then that NRTL A will not accept a power supply approved by NRTL
B.
The latter is true for NRTL B who will accept NRTL A's mark with no problems
(in
all cases the conditions of acceptability are followed)

So long as the conditions of acceptability are followed and there are no
engineering reasons for NRTL A to reject NRTL B's approval then what happens
next. Is there any recourse or would we have to go to one NRTL and get the
whole
lot retested. If there is no engineering reason, can an NRTL reject anothers
recognition just because it distlikes it or maybe sees it as competition!

Has anyone else had a similar experience, if so what did you do to resolve
it
without paying out for more NRTL approvals on an already recognised
component.

Any comments would be greatly recieved.

Regards,

    Duncan Hobbs, Product Safety Engineer
    Snell and Wilcox Ltd. 
    


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