Rich,

As many times in the past, I have found your explanation very concise,
interesting and informative (noting your 'disclaimer'). Thanks for sharing
this with all of us.

Phil Godfrey

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rich Nute [SMTP:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 4:13 PM
> To:   [email protected]
> Cc:   [email protected]
> Subject:      Re: Hot Flaming Oil Test
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Ken:
> 
> 
> >   The standards specify the oil as being:
> >   "distillate fuel oil which is a medium volitile distillate having a
> mass per 
> >   unit volume between 0.845 g/ml and 0.865 g/ml, a flash point between
> 43.5C 
> >   and 93.5C and an average calorific value of 38MJ/l."
> 
> I've found that this is equivalent to ordinary
> diesel fuel or #2 fuel (heating) oil.
> 
> I've bought The tools for performing this test 
> in almost any kitchen goods store:
> 
>     all-metal ladle with side-lip (for pouring 
>     the oil)
> 
>     large aluminum-foil roasting pan (to contain 
>     the poured oil)
> 
> I found that the standard kitchen ladle was not 
> configured for this test, so I chose an all-metal
> ladle so I could bend the handle to better suit a
> controlled pour.
> 
> The height of the ladle above the holes under test
> must be controlled to 100 mm.  The height is critical
> to pass/fail.  I found that I could better control
> this parameter by using a rest for the ladle handle
> adjusted for 100 mm above the holes.
> 
> The rate of pour is also critical to pass/fail.  You
> should practice the pour several times.  I found a 
> big help if someone counted the seconds aloud for me
> as I poured.  (You can't watch a clock and watch the 
> pour at the same time!)
> 
> The cheesecloth must be located 50 mm below the 
> openings under test.  I found that it was best to 
> suspend or support the cheesecloth above the bottom 
> of the pan so as to prevent saturation with the oil 
> collecting in the bottom of the pan.
> 
> I also used a dam of plumber's putty on the test
> panel to prevent the oil from spilling over the edge 
> of the test panel.  This helps control spilling the 
> oil outside the roasting pan.
> 
> The test panel needs to be independently supported
> and level so as to allow the oil to collect over
> the holes.
> 
> Note that you are dealing with 3 parameters:
> 
>     hole diameter
>     hole-to-hole spacing
>     metal thickness
> 
> All of these are critical to pass/fail.  
> 
> As near as I can tell, the process of passing the test
> is that of cooling the flaming oil by the heat-sinking 
> action of the metal, and by quenching the flame as the 
> oil passes through the hole (i.e., the oil fills the 
> hole such that no oxygen can pass through the hole with 
> the oil and sustain the burning as the oil emerges from 
> the bottom of the metal).
> 
> Note that you get to repeat the test for a total of 3
> successes in succession.  Due to the variablility of 
> the test, if you get some passes and some fails, keep
> testing until you get 3 passes in succession!  You'll
> find that passing is a matter of controlling the test
> parameters, especially the location above the holes, the 
> rate of pour, and the pour height.
> 
> Be sure to perform the test in a suitable area such as
> a fume hood.  Also, be prepared to deal with spilled
> oil, and with spilled burning oil.  Have someone 
> standing by with a fire extinguisher at the ready.  In 
> the event of a failure, you'll need it to extinguish 
> the oil in the pan (otherwise, it will burn for a long 
> time!).
> 
> By the way, the hole patterns (Table 15) specified as 
> acceptable in the standard do not necessarily pass the 
> test!
> 
> Good luck!   Let us know how you do!
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Rich
> 
> 
> ps:  Note that the oil will not ignite at room 
>      temperature.  You can dunk a match in the oil,
>      and the match will be extinguished.
> 
>      You do need to heat the oil slightly before it
>      will burn.  Don't heat the oil too much -- just
>      enough to ignite it.  Then, you let it burn for
>      1 minute before the pour; this is all the heat
>      you want for the oil.  Any more, and you'll tend
>      to fail the test.  Be sure to extinguish the 
>      flame you use to heat the oil BEFORE you proceed
>      with the test.
> 
> Disclaimer:  The hot-flaming-oil test is a dangerous 
>      test.  The preceding comments, observations, and
>      opinions are not complete, are not necessarily 
>      accurate, may be ambiguous, and must not be
>      relied upon for the safety of persons conducting
>      such a test or for the accuracy of the test 
>      results.  
> 
> 
> 
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