In additon to Tania's comments Russia has been a full contributing member of IEC since 1907 a time when communism was just a lone Frenchman's idea. Don't write back about the Marx brothers he was a little late in distributive economic ideas.
Jerry Roberton "Grant, Tania (Tania)" wrote: > Careful, George! > > I agree with your term "Emerging standards". However, you must not have > been familiar with IEC standards until very recently. > > IEC standards, during the "iron curtain" time, used to be published in three > languages on the title page: French, English, and Russian. Then, you had > a choice whether you purchased the French/English version, or the > English/Russian version, etc. > > In fact, I noted that when the Soviet block began to disintegrate, did the > Russian titles disappear. Could have been a coincidence, or not. I just > don't know. What I am saying here is that, as far as the IEC organization > is concerned, Russian (in whatever political format) participation was the > rule, not the exception. > > I also don't agree with your historical assessment that "....under > Communism these countries had little dealings with the Western world, ..." > In fact, the Soviet block countries had a lot of dealings with the Western > world, some of which we did not appreciate or want. But these are > political issues. And, by the way, I am not and have never been a Soviet > "apologist"; however, it does bother me when history is not portrayed > correctly. > > Tania Grant, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Lucent Technologies, Communications Applications Group > > ---------- > From: [email protected] [SMTP:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 6:21 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Certification of Products and other emerging countries > > Dear ??? > > Perhaps "emerging countries" is not the best terminology. > "Emerging standards" may be more appropriate. First of all, > there is the Commonwealth of Independent States, formerly > the USSR. For some 50 years under Communism these countries > had little dealings with the Western world, but are all now > at some point in developing standards to participate in the > global market. Russia, Belarus, etc. > > Then there are the former Soviet Bloc countries, sometimes > called Eastern Europe, such as Poland, Czech Republic, Hungary, > etc. Many already have well developed approval processes, > but some, such as Poland, can be very difficult to completely > satisfy at times. The good news here is that several of these > very much want to join the European Union, and may even accept > the CE marking in the near future prior to membership. > > Japan has long been a well developed nation, but has no product > safety certification requirements for typical ITE product, and > only voluntary (VCCI) requirements for EMC. Meanwhile, China > and Taiwan have relatively recent certification requirements for > ITE. > > Argentina only recently began to require IRAM certification for > ITE. > > The bad news is that there are still many countries that do not > now have certification requirements, but will probably adopt some > within the next decade. > > If you don't like change, Product Safety and EMC are the wrong > fields to be in at this time. > > George Alspaugh > > ---------------------- Forwarded by George Alspaugh/Lex/Lexmark on > 03/22/2000 > 09:04 AM --------------------------- > > rc%[email protected] on 03/21/2000 08:21:01 PM > > Please respond to rc%[email protected] > > To: grassc%[email protected] > cc: emc-pstc%[email protected] (bcc: George > Alspaugh/Lex/Lexmark) > Subject: Certification of Products and other emerging countries > > Dear Charles, > > REGARDING: > ......the emerging countries have been very erratic in the implementation > and enforcement of EMC legislation....... > > The emerging countries are quite numerous, can you come up with some actual > examples? > > "Grasso, Charles (Chaz)" <[email protected]> on 03/22/2000 > 02:43:36 > AM > > To: Rene Charton/TUV-Twn@TUV-Twn, Kevin Newland <[email protected]> > cc: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Russian Certification of Products and other countries > > It has been my experience that - with the > exception of the EU and Aus/Nz - the emerging > countries have been very erratic in the implementation > and enforcement of EMC legislation. > > Rene, I must disagree with your comment regarding > scheduled implmentations. Putting incomplete > EMC enforcement/legislation in to force on schedule > is NOT good planning. Kudos to the EMC Framework - that > EMC legislation was advertised and compliance methods > available well before the required date. > > If only it were true universally... > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 5:34 PM > To: Kevin Newland > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Russian Certification of Products and other countries > > What about > > Japan, Australia&NewZealand, South Africa, Argentina, Mexico....... > > In many Asian Countries (Taiwan, China, Korea, Hongkong.........) rules are > just being set up. This implies that there are frequent changes, but not on > daily basis. > > And changes are implemented according to a schedule. Can you show me a > similar schedule for the "stock exchange"? If you can, I will change my Job > immediately. > > Rene Charton > > Kevin Newland <[email protected]> on 03/16/2000 06:59:11 AM > > Please respond to Kevin Newland <[email protected]> > > To: "Maxwell, Chris" <[email protected]>, "'EMC-PSTC Internet Forum'" > <[email protected]> > cc: (bcc: Rene Charton/TUV-Twn) > Subject: Re: Russian Certification of Products > > Chris, > > Just remember that with the exception of Western > European countries,USA and Canada, the rest of the > world (without being rude) have not really have a > solid rule for anything. These countries rules and > regulation changes daily (just like stock exchange) > without any notice or explanation). This is sadly the > real life and we live in it. > > Thanks > Kevin > > ------------------------------------------- > This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety > Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. > > To cancel your subscription, send mail to: > [email protected] > with the single line: > unsubscribe emc-pstc > > For help, send mail to the list administrators: > Jim Bacher: [email protected] > Michael Garretson: [email protected] > > For policy questions, send mail to: > Richard Nute: [email protected] > > ------------------------------------------- > This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety > Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. > > To cancel your subscription, send mail to: > [email protected] > with the single line: > unsubscribe emc-pstc > > For help, send mail to the list administrators: > Jim Bacher: [email protected] > Michael Garretson: [email protected] > > For policy questions, send mail to: > Richard Nute: [email protected] ------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. 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