John, it may well be that the intention was to only include LED's for optic
fiber use, but the definition of "light emitting diode" in the standard
includes all types of LEDs.

Richard Woods

        ----------
        From:  John Juhasz [SMTP:[email protected]]
        Sent:  Thursday, March 09, 2000 4:30 PM
        To:  '[email protected]'; [email protected]
        Subject:  RE: IEC 825 and Light Emitting diodes.

        Richard, 

        I don't believe that the standard applies to LED indicators instead
it is for 
        'LED-based optics' used in fiber optic transmission. 

        John Juhasz 
        Fiber Options 
        Bohemia, NY 



        -----Original Message----- 
        From: [email protected] [ mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> ] 
        Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 2:16 PM 
        To: [email protected] 
        Subject: RE: IEC 825 and Light Emitting diodes. 



        Some of our ITE products have LED indicators. A well know European
based 
        agency has evaluated them based upon the manufacturer's
specifications and 
        our circuit designs. Yes, fault conditions must be considered but
usually 
        there is sufficient information in the data sheets to indicate that
the 
        device is compliant at the higher voltage.  In a couple of cases, we
have 
        had some difficulty due to the lack of sufficient information on the
data 
        sheet; and we had to obtain more information from the manufacturer.
We have 
        never had to perform emission testing, and we have not been
instructed to 
        include the laser marking even though we display the agency's
compliance 
        mark. 

        Richard Woods 

                ---------- 
                From:  [email protected] [SMTP:[email protected]] 
                Sent:  Thursday, March 09, 2000 1:33 PM 
                To:  [email protected] 
                Subject:  IEC 825 and Light Emitting diodes. 


                Hi group, 

                When evaluating IEC 825-1 for fiber optic LAN transceivers I
came 
        across 
                requirements for LED's. I have known that the EU had some 
        requirements for 
                LED emission. Being on the US side of the pond I have not
seen how 
        it is 
                applied. 

                Are manufactures doing fault testing on LED to ensure the
class 1 
        levels 
                are maintained? 
                Are manufacturers labeling products with LED's (this covers
just 
        about 
                every electronic product I know of) with the "CLASS 1 LED
PRODUCT" 
        as 
                required in 5.12 of IEC 825? 

                Rick Linford 


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