Dear all, 

In bringing a product through safety and having many 
issues, it might surprise you that after all was said and 
done, the entire safety approval reduced to a simple 
cfm rating fan for a chip both on the secondary 
side of the power supply. 

For some obvious reasons of which I hope you all 
understand, I can't provide too many details either 
here or off-line. 

Needless to say, the fan and chip companies have 
non-disclosure agreements them.  In trying to obtain 
a simple cfm rating of the fan, a flurry of "call the 
other guy" began to happen. 

Nothing was resolved.  Indeed, I went so far as 
to offer signing ANY type of non-disclosure 
agreements with both of them.  But that was to 
no avail.  And it remains so. 

So, the ECO gets cut to remove that part and 
mfr, plus any other parts by said mfr.  An email 
gets sent to said fan company stating the resultant 
actions, etc, etc ...  I doubt it will be of any 
concern to them. 

My reason for posting is that in the 20 or so 
years of doing EMC/Safety, I've never run 
into such a thing.  Neither have I heard such 
a thing from associates who have been doing 
this work for as long or longer than I. 

This isn't an invitation to a bitch session about the 
companies.  Nor is it a complaint about the NRTLs 
who are just doing their job.  My experience in said 
matter with the NRTL has been great. 

I've run into something similar with patents and ink 
believe it or not.  Mfr.'s are not really obligated to 
spell out exactly everything in something such as 
a patent, which I found surprising.  

What surprises me here is in the case of safety, 
where information is not disclosed.  The NRTL 
didn't do cfm rating of the fan.  In fact, there's 
really little no standard way to do cfm of fans. 
Thus, the reason why they allow similar fans 
within a mfr but not from another mfr. in 
some cases. 

So, I'm wondering some of the following: 

1.  Have any you ever run into something 
     like this before? 

2. If you have, what did you do about it? 

On and off line responses both welcome ... 

Regards, Doug McKean 



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