The "CE" is a European "mark" on products promulgated by various European 
Directives.   "CB" is not a "mark."   
  
The CB Scheme started as "a gentlemen's agreement" between various safety labs 
(not all necessarily in Europe) to accept each other's test results provided 
the labs abided by specified test procedures and practices.  The CB Scheme now 
is under the IEC umbrella and has stringent requirements for joining this 
"scheme".   By having a product evaluated under the CB Scheme allows the 
manufacturer to have this product be eligible for marking by individual 
agencies/labs who are members of the CB Scheme; i.e.: the agency reviews the CB 
Report and Certificate and may authorize the manufacturer to affix their safety 
mark.  May or may not;-- if not satisfied with certain test results, the CB 
member agency can request the manufacturer to re-test those parameters at their 
lab.  In practice, I believe, this seldom happens.
  
The CB Scheme is invaluable for shipments outside European countries since many 
countries are members and will accept CB Reports without question.  And there 
are other countries who cannot issue CB Reports but will accept such from other 
CB member countries,-- Slovenia, for example, where the Bush-Putin meetings are 
supposed to take place shortly.     
  
My suggestion is to have your third-party safety test lab/agency (who is also a 
CB Scheme member) evaluate and test your product to harmonized IEC/EN 
standards, and to all country deviations (or pick the ones you need).  Be sure 
that both versions of IEC and the EN are referenced on the test report and the 
Certificate.   (South Africa will accept IEC 60950, but not EN 60950, for 
example.)  Now you have a proper test report that you can use to apply the CE 
mark, and you also have a test report that will get you into countries 
world-wide.   (Except those bureaucracies that still think they can milk money 
by requiring that you test with them in their own country.)  And they are 
usually correct;-- you pay them the money if you want to sell in that country!

 As George Alspaugh suggested, check out www.cbscheme.org

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----- Original Message -----
From: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 3:17 PM
To: Brian O'Connell
Cc: '[email protected]'; [email protected]
Subject: RE: CE or CB ?
  


>TUV has single-day seminars addressing requirements of the 'CE' mark. Both
UL and TUV can do the CD "dance."

We at TUV decidedly do not dance... :-)

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TUV Rheinland
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T 503-469-8880 Ext 205
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[email protected]




                    "Brian O'Connell"
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"'[email protected]'" <[email protected]>
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                    06/07/2001 11:38 AM
                    Please respond to
                    "Brian O'Connell"








Requirements for the 'CE' mark are typically determined by Directives
published as an "Official Journal" (OJ) of the European Union. The
directive you seem to be referring to is the EMC Directive (89/336/EEC).
This & other directives are available online.

TUV has single-day seminars addressing requirements of the 'CE' mark. Both
UL and TUV can do the CD "dance."

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Pierce [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 6:31 AM
To: '[email protected]'
Cc: '[email protected]'; '[email protected]'
Subject: CE or CB ?


         I am in the process of introducing product into the EU and
possibly
world wide.  I was shown that the CB mark testing covers all the countries
in the EU that we plan to sell to and other countries as well.  Is this a
new mark?     Would I be better off getting the CE mark and then test to
other countries applicable standards or the CB mark?  The test facility
that
provided me with the information was Intertek Testing Services, in
California USA.

I planned to test to:

EN55013
EN55020
TBR21
61000-3-2
61000-3-3






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