Why not achieve copper balance by adding extra grounded areas on the
surface; ie, copper fill pegged to the normal ground layer(s) at multiple
points?  Large areas can be gridded in some fashion; it doesn't have to be
solid copper.  

I'm one who does not like to see floating copper, of any size or shape,
especially in high frequency areas of a board.

Jack Cook
Xerox Corp.

-----Original Message-----
From: Perry Qu [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 1:19 PM
To: Roman, Dan
Cc: 'Stephen Phillips'; [email protected]; [email protected];
DORIN OPREA
Subject: Re: Copper Thieving



Hi! Dan:

I understand that EMC guys don't want to see the floating coppers on the PCB
because of ESD and/or emission problem. But on the manufacture side, they
claim
that if you don't do copper balance on the layer where you have large area
without copper, you will sure have over-eching in that area, plus warpage of
the
board.

The question is, where do we find a compromised solution that makes everyone
happy ?

Regards

Perry

"Roman, Dan" wrote:

> Remember that you can also cause yourself all kinds of EMI headaches if
you
> have electrically floating copper areas or patterns on the board.  It has
> lead to many arguments with the CAD department over the years!
>
> -- Dan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Phillips [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 9:33 AM
> To: [email protected]; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Copper Thieving
>
>   Copper applied to the outer PCB layers, in a pattern,
> to even out the copper placement so the board is less
> likely to warp through soldering.  Obviously, it would
> be put where there is not etch, large open areas, to
> somewhat offset where you might have planes of
> copper elsewhere on the layer.
>
>   Beware of Creepage and Clearance violations
> (if applicable).  Some PCB fab. houses have
> carte-blanche to add this, we don't allow that -
> and control it as part of our own PCB CAD
> instead.
>
>   Best regards,
>   Stephen
>
> At 09:15 AM 1/18/01 Thursday , [email protected] wrote:
> >
> >Please excuse my lack of knowledge..........................what is
"copper
> >thieving"?
> >
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