Ed and all who responded:

I'm sorry to belabor this issue but I think it is generally one of awareness
and perhaps may not have been raised before in such a manner. I think all of
your observations are correct as Ed surmised  < Consumer electronics has not
been well addressed because it has been largely a voluntary requirement. My
opinion is such requirements are not observed in the real world.

I am attached a PDF file called EMCAB-1 which in this country was
promolgated many years ago and I think that will provide the information you
ae missing.  I might say that EMCAB-1 was ignored by manufacturers but the
problems have persisted.

I can also say that 15 years ago there were 30,000 cases a year in Cnada
alone. This has dropped considerably in the last ten years but now we find
consumer switch mode power supplies casuing the same problem . These are
type, typically free running  that do not contain microprocessors so do not
fall under the Digital emissions regulations ( FCC Part 15).

The harmonics from "electronic" transformers is condcuted back into the
powerline and from there is re radiated by house wiring . It is not a CE
problem relating to cables.

My experience has been that the majority of this 'nuisance " can be removed
effectively with common mode inductors which could be offered as some
consumer relief.   In Canada, this is the consumer's responsibility.

p.s  recent devices exhibiting radiosensitivity are :  Infra red motion
sensors, car alarms, garage door openers, baby monitors, telephones ,
computer speakers etc.

Ralph Cameron
----- Original Message -----
From: "Price, Ed" <[email protected]>
To: "EMC-PCST (E-mail)" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 10:02 AM
Subject: Consumer Electronics Compatibility


>
> Ralph:
>
> Would you provide a little more detail about the <30MHz Consumer
Electronics
> compatibility problems that you have been addressing? Are you finding that
> the path is a direct galvanic connection, or is the problem caused
primarily
> by radiation of energy off of the power lines? What are the most common
> emitting devices, and what types of devices are the most numerous victims?
> And of course, what's usually the best solution?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ed
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ralph Cameron [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 7:57 PM
> To: Ken Javor; dan kwok
> Cc: EMC-PCST (E-mail)
> Subject: Re: Site Correlation
>
>
>
> No, your message is clear, what I am saying is that the emissions below
> 30Mhz cause the majority of the interference problems to consumer
> electronics and that's not being addressed.
>
> Ralph Cameron
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken Javor" <[email protected]>
> To: "Ralph Cameron" <[email protected]>; "dan kwok" <[email protected]>
> Cc: "EMC-PCST (E-mail)" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 10:34 PM
> Subject: Re: Site Correlation
>
>
> > I must have been unclear in my previous message.  The purpose of
> controlling
> > cable cm CE is to control the resultant cable-induced RE, which are
> > controlled to protect tunable antenna-connected radio receivers, period.
> > There was never any other purpose for controlling CE or RE.
> >
> > Ken Javor
>
> Ed  Price
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