That's interesting. I can understand that the glass in the PCB is a fluid and
will flow over time. But is there something more quantifiable than "gradually
squashes"? Would this mean by next Thursday, next year, or 1000 years from
now? By how much would it deform over time? If I wanted to calculate this
effect, how would I do that? (I'm an electrical engineer - fluid dynamics is a
very distant memory at this point....)

In the particular case I'm looking at right now, this connection is not
serving as a DC power path so I'm not so concerned about arcing here. However,
it would be interesting to understand this better for future designs.

In fact I might be more concerned about the screw actually coming loose as a
result of this compression, however I've never heard of such a thing. I guess
that returns me to my locking washer question.

thanks,
kim



From: Robert Johnson [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 8:09 PM
To: Kim Flint; [email protected]
Subject: RE: best screw/washer choices for attaching PCB to Chassis?


You should not include the PWB as part of the sandwich in an electrical
connection. It gradually squashes and leaves a loose connection. The answer
is generally to use a soldered jumper and lug to make connections from board
to chassis. The same applies to other board connections such as board to
busbar or similar connections. We have experienced arcing and board
destruction due to such designs on DC power output connections.

Bob Johnson
ITE Safety
 


From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kim Flint
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 9:15 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: best screw/washer choices for attaching PCB to Chassis?


Hi-

We have a fairly straightforward requirement of mounting a PCB into a steel
chassis. The chassis has PEM type standoffs and the PCB is held to them with
machine screws. These connections provide an electrical ground path between
the PCB and the chassis. 

In other words, we have what seems to be the fairly ordinary and common set
of requirements. We need to have mechanical reliability (so the PCB is held
in place), nothing should break during assembly, the screws should not be
able to work themselves out, and electrical conductivity should be low for a
low impedance ground path. Seems simple, yet all of us here have a different
opinion about how to do this properly, we've all done it a variety of ways
in our past, and none of us seems to have the right expertise to really
claim to know the definitive answer. 

I'm hoping to get some expert opinions from this group, or at least some
idea of what others do assuming there is some reasonable justification for
it. Can you help? Or perhaps point me towards some good discussion on the
subject? (I did search the 2+ years of mail I have from this group, since
the archives don't seem to be online...) 

The questions are:

Screw/Washer choice:
- should a washer be used or not?
- if a washer is used, should it be a locking washer?
- Is it possible for a locking washer to cause unwanted damage to the PCB?
- Is an adhesive like Loctite a reasonable alternative to lock washers in
this case?
- should the screw be zinc plated? or some other plating?


PCB layout:
- Should we use a plated through-hole with ground planes connected inside
the hole? 
- or a non-plated hole with vias in the surface layer pad connecting to the
ground plane?
- What electrical or reliability concerns relate to this choice?
- how large should the surface pad be assuming a 4-40 screw? 

anything else we should be considering?

Thanks for any input you have!

kim




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