Brian,
 
ISO Guide 25 Section 7 was "Accommodation and Environment" and Section 11 was
"Handling of Test Items".
 
ISO 17025 addresses these topics in Sections 5.3 and 5.8, respectively.
 
Regards,
--Sue
 
Sue Sturges 
Technical Operations 
CQ-DAE Compliance Engineering
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From: Brian O'Connell [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 3:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: CB, SMT, & TMP



Joshua 

Yes, I know that 25 has been replaced by 17025, but the wonderful people that
wrote IECEE 02:2001 did not refer to IEC 17025:1999.

And I thought the purpose of standards was to provide for a uniform
application of requirements. But I do tend to be a bit naive and foolish in my
expectations...

And in any case, when a voice in the wilderness asks "what is the basis for x
?" the real questions being asked typically are "what is the rationale for
these requirements?" and "how can I encourage the various agencies/NCBs to
have more uniform requirements ?".

luck, 
Brian 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Joshua Wiseman [ mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 11:56 AM 
To: Brian O'Connell; [email protected] 
Subject: RE: CB, SMT, & TMP 

Brian, 

As I understand it ISO/IEC 17025 replaced ISO/IEC Guide 25. 

The answers to your other questions will depend on who you are using for your
NCB. 

Regards, 
Josh 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Brian O'Connell [ mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 11:30 AM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: CB, SMT, & TMP 


Good People 

IECEE 02, cl C1.2 requires lab conformity to "...clauses 7 to 11 of ISO/IEC 
Guide 25...". I have ISO/IEC 17025, but not the previous standard. 

What clauses in ISO/IEC 17025 are equivalent to ISO 25 clauses 7 through 11 
? 

What is basis of competency testing, done to accredit the lab for SMT, that 
is required by an NCB of manufacturer's test lab personnel and facility, 
that is above and beyond that required in cl 5.4.5 of ISO 17025 ? 

In cl C2.3 - what is definition of a "production" sample ? 
  
Are there other standards that provide guidance to acceptance of 
manufacturer's test data for use in an NCB-generated CB Report ? 

What is the basis for allowing an NCB to accept manufacturer's test data for 
and to only review (not write) the CB Report under SMT in accordance with 
IECEE 02, Annex C ? 

Thanks much for any guidance and insight that can be shared. 

luck, 
Brian 


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