Brian,

I understand the predicament now.  When I talked to the NCB's in my area they
all referenced ISO/IEC 17025, so I didn't get stuck with this problem.

Josh


From: Brian O'Connell [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 12:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: CB, SMT, & TMP


Joshua

Yes, I know that 25 has been replaced by 17025, but the wonderful people
that wrote IECEE 02:2001 did not refer to IEC 17025:1999.

And I thought the purpose of standards was to provide for a uniform
application of requirements. But I do tend to be a bit naive and foolish in
my expectations...

And in any case, when a voice in the wilderness asks "what is the basis for
x ?" the real questions being asked typically are "what is the rationale for
these requirements?" and "how can I encourage the various agencies/NCBs to
have more uniform requirements ?".

luck,
Brian


From: Joshua Wiseman [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 11:56 AM
To: Brian O'Connell; [email protected]
Subject: RE: CB, SMT, & TMP

Brian,

As I understand it ISO/IEC 17025 replaced ISO/IEC Guide 25.

The answers to your other questions will depend on who you are using for
your NCB.

Regards,
Josh


From: Brian O'Connell [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 11:30 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: CB, SMT, & TMP


Good People

IECEE 02, cl C1.2 requires lab conformity to "...clauses 7 to 11 of ISO/IEC
Guide 25...". I have ISO/IEC 17025, but not the previous standard.

What clauses in ISO/IEC 17025 are equivalent to ISO 25 clauses 7 through 11
?

What is basis of competency testing, done to accredit the lab for SMT, that
is required by an NCB of manufacturer's test lab personnel and facility,
that is above and beyond that required in cl 5.4.5 of ISO 17025 ?

In cl C2.3 - what is definition of a "production" sample ?
 
Are there other standards that provide guidance to acceptance of
manufacturer's test data for use in an NCB-generated CB Report ?

What is the basis for allowing an NCB to accept manufacturer's test data for
and to only review (not write) the CB Report under SMT in accordance with
IECEE 02, Annex C ?

Thanks much for any guidance and insight that can be shared.

luck,
Brian



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