think I am all set Chris,
we are a final end user as you noted,
thus havnet been subjected to fault hipot tests.
as our internal temps are low, thus not warranting
any more hipot tests..
 
thnak you for your clear reply on this.
regards.
Richard.
 

Richard A. Stone 
Excel Switching Corporation 
Compliance 
75 Perseverance Way 
Hyannis, MA. 02601 
508 862 3311 ph. 
508 862 3020 fax 

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From: Chris Maxwell [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 10:08 AM
To: Stone, Richard; Chris Wells; emc-pstc
Subject: RE: IEC61010-1 multiple Overvoltage catagories in one circuit???


Richard, (answering message below) 

Most safety testing is by inspection of PCB layout, component specs and 
component ratings.   For instance, if you use an approved power supply, 
the lab usually won't pull any single fault hi-pot tests on your unit. 
They'll probably be satisfied with performing a hi-pot test on the 
complete unit.   You can rest assured that the manufacturer of your power 
supply probably suffered through numerous single fault hi-pot tests.   As 
such, they won't be repeated on your design. 

However, if there is any doubt, the lab will produce a single fault and 
test the circuit for a hazardous condition.   This is especially true if 
you design your own power supply, as we have done a few times.     Part of 
this testing may be a hi-pot test.   Furthermore, a design may have to 
pass a hi-pot test after going through the "blocked fan" single faults 
that you mention; perhaps only to verify that the elevated temperatures 
didn't compromise any insulation in the unit.   This usually isn't the 
case; since most blocked fan tests don't cause temperature rises 
sufficient to exceed the temperature ratings of most insulation. 

After saying all of that; I have to qualify that it's just my opinion 
based upon my own experience and my now failing memory (I cycle through 
all three of my girls' names just to get one).   Since I'm a safety lab 
"client", I'll defer the verification of my statements to someone who 
actually works at a safety lab. 

Anybody want to help Richard on this one? 

Chris Maxwell 
Design Engineer 
Nettest 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Stone, Richard [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 9:40 AM 
To: Chris Maxwell; Chris Wells; emc-pstc 
Subject: RE: IEC61010-1 multiple Overvoltage catagories in one 
circuit??? 

Chris, 
for #1 below, 
are you stating that for a hipot test 
the NRTL can do a single fault test, 
remove a part or anything else, being the single 
fault, then performing a hipot? 
I dont agree with this logic, 
please educate me if this is the case. 
Hipot should be done as a complete unit, intact. 
with No faults.....willing to learn from this forum.. 
Temp test is with one fault for heating purposes. 
hipot? 
thank you, 
Richard... 

Richard A. Stone 
Excel Switching Corporation 
Compliance 
75 Perseverance Way 
Hyannis, MA. 02601 
508 862 3311 ph. 
508 862 3020 fax 




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