Hello Richard,
 
>From the extreme condition, ambient conditions need to be reached within 5
minutes.  Think of this as a 5 minute or less ramp rate.  If you have a really
fast chamber, you can set it to do this in 5 minutes.  Or optionally you can
simply take the equipment out of the chamber which is at extreme conditions
and place the product into ambient conditions.  The product should be packaged
during the test so condensation coming from a cold temperature should not be
an issue.  You can then leave the packaged equipment sitting around
indefinitely until you decide you want to do the functional test.  This could
be immediately, 1 hour, 30 days, whatever.  There are no time constraints on
how long the equipment takes to start operating as some may have several
minutes or more of firmware to load.  The intent is to ensure that exposure to
these extremes (when packaged) does not degrade the product compared to a
product that has not been exposed.
 
Of course many of us test unboxed as normally that is the last thing developed
before the product is shipped.  The risk is that the thermal shock on an
unpackaged piece of equipment will be greater that way and could lead to
"false" failures.  But the testing is faster.  In my experience I have never
had a product fail these tests (and I have tested thousands) so I usually take
the risk if I don't have boxes yet.  My suspicion is that Bellcore, a long
time ago, saw failures of disk drives and things like that which justified the
testing.
 

Jim 


Jim Wiese 
NEBS Project Manager/Senior Compliance Engineer 
ADTRAN, INC. 
901 Explorer Blvd. 
P.O. Box 140000 
Huntsville, AL 35814-4000 
256-963-8431 
256-963-8250 fax 
[email protected] 



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Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 10:29 AM
To: IEEE emc-pstc
Subject: GR-63: Low and Hi temperature exposure and thermal shock



Greetings All, 

In the NEB Requirements: Physical Protection standard GR-63, sections 5.1.1.1
and 5.1.1.2, they both have the statement-

        "Perform post-test equipment's functionality test after the equipment
has stabilized at ambient temperature." 

This is after the unit has been soaked in -40 degrees C or +70 degrees C for
72 hours in an environmental chamber. The unit is then removed from the
chamber and into room ambient or the chamber ambient is increased to room
ambient temperature in less than 5 minutes. In determining the units
functionality, what is meant by the above statement? Is it to-

1) Turn the unit on immediately after removal from the chamber and observe
what happens. 
2) Turn the unit on immediately after removal from the chamber, wait until the
unit has completed its power on sequence, then start to evaluate the unit's
functionality. The power on sequence may take several minutes as components
are warming up and may not start operating until they have reached a higher
operating temperature..

3) Wait until the unit's components has reached room ambient temperature,
before powering on the unit. This may take more than several minutes before
powering on the unit.

As for pass or fail, if the unit does not function normally even when the unit
has reached room ambient, it then fails. However, if it takes several minutes
and goes through several resets, before finally functioning normally, is that
a failure?

Thanks to all in advance. 

Richard 
===== 
Richard Georgerian 
Compliance Engineer 
Carrier Access Corporation 
5395 Pearl Parkway 
Boulder, CO 80301 
USA 

Tele: 303-218-5748      Fax: 303-218-5503              
mailto:[email protected] 






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