Our maintenance department just got a thermal imaging camera and they have
found several loose connections in breaker panels and bad plug/recepts within
our facility. You can check wiring running 30ft overhead. I have used it to
see temperature rise in cable harnesses where we bundle them together with
cable ties. It is like a miracle device for finding problem areas and the
price is coming down on them.

The Other Brian

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Woodgate
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 9:05 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Electrical design challenge

In message
<64D32EE8B9CBDD44963ACB076A5F6ABB01C4C6E4@Mailbox-Tech.lecotech.local>,
dated Tue, 2 Aug 2011, "Kunde, Brian" <[email protected]> writes:

>You bring up a point which I have debated many times in the past. Since
>the wire can handle more current in a fault condition than it is rated,
>the only real way of knowing is to do an overload test as you
>suggested? Slowly increase the output load while measuring the wire
>temperature until the PSU shuts down or the wire overheats. Since this
>would simulate a fault condition, do we use 150ºC (calculated for a
>40ºC ambient) as our upper limit for the wire temp? Is this how it is done?

Some wire ratings are based on a 70 C ambient. It is important to take
into account how the wire can lose heat to its surroundings. Consider a
wire clipped to a steel beam in an unheated warehouse, and the same wire
embedded in thermal insulation in  the roof-space of a heated building.
>
>When we have done this test in the past we generally find out the wire
>can handle much more current than we thought,

Yes, another aspect is that the 70 C rating may also be based on a
service life of 20 years. A simple test obviously doesn't look at slow
thermal degradation.

> but connectors tend to overheat first, so don't forget to check the
>connectors.

This is very important. The wire may test OK for temperature rise in
free air at 25 C at 10 times its rated current, but the connector
probably won't.
>
>It is too bad that the world isn't designed so you can take a 10A
>output, run it through a 10A wire, a 10A connector, and a 10 amp load
>and not have to worry about what happens in a fault condition.

If it was too easy, it wouldn't be so fascinating. (;-)
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