In my opinion, it seems inappropriate to rely on equipment, external to the 
test subject, to determine emissions performance. i.e. the attenuating effect 
of whatever your USB device is connected to, which will be highly variable 
between various hosts. The test subject should be assessed in its own right.

 

In the absence of a conducted emissions test in the directly applicable 
standards, I would be tempted to ‘borrow’ or apply an appropriate test from 
another EMC standard.

 

e.g. Conducted Emissions DC Emissions from, say, EN 301 489-1. This uses the 
method and limits from EN 55022 but using a DC power source. I would feel I’ve 
done all I should to determine the USB device’s emissions.

 

Awaiting rafts of disagreement……

 

Tony


 

        ----- Original Message -----

        From: Gartman, Richard

        Sent: 05/05/11 07:32 PM

        To: [email protected]

        Subject: [PSES] Opinion regarding USB and EMC testing


        Panel of experts .. 

         

         

         

         

         

        To demonstrate compliance with the EMC directive,  products that have a 
“path” to the AC grid must be tested for: 

         

         

Radiated Emissions < 1GHz – EN 55022 

 

 

Radiated Emissions > 1GHz - EN 55022:2006+A1:2007 

 

 

Conducted Emissions – EN 55022 

 

 

Radiated Immunity – IEC 61000-4-3 

 

 

EFT – IEC 61000-4-4 

 

 

Surge – IEC 61000-4-5 

 

 

Conducted Immunity – IEC 61000-4-6 

 

 

Voltage dips & Interruptions – IEC 61000-4-11 

 

 

Harmonics – IEC 61000-3-2 

 

 

Flicker – IEC 61000-3-3 

 

 

ESD - Electrostatic Discharge – IEC 61000-4-2 

 

 

        A product with a UBS connector has a path to the AC grid. The 5V on the 
connector may be provided by an AC adapter or a piece of ITE equipment, i.e. a 
computer. If the “device” can ONLY be powered by a USB connector from a 
computer, does the “computer isolation” on the path to the AC grid reduce the 
testing required to demonstrate compliance of the device? The “device” would 
only function when it is connected to a computer via the USB. 

         

         

         

         

         

        Configuration example: 

         

         

        Line voltage => AC adapter => Computer => USB connection => Device 

         

         

        The USB connection would also be providing data between the computer 
and device 

         

         

         

         

         

        I would be interested in hearing any opinions on this. 

         

         

         

         

         

        Thank you  for your views 

         

         

        W. Richard Gartman, MS, CSP 

         

         

        Product Stewardship Manager 

         

         

        Texas Instruments, Education Technology 

         

         

        7800 Banner Drive, Dallas, Tx 75251 

         

         

        Office: 972-917-1636               Email: [email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>  

         

         

        www.education.ti.com/us/productstewardship 
<http://education.ti.com/us/productstewardship>  

         

         

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– perspective comes before and after the race. Preparation equals success. 
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