A bit off topic, but I wonder if homeowner's or health insurance has any fine print about coverage of incidents arising from unlisted products. -- Lauren Crane (mr.) Product Regulatory Analyst | Corporate Product EHS | Applied Materials Office 512.272.6540 | Mobile 512.736.7201 | America - Europe - Asia
-external use- ** Save paper and trees! Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. From: "McInturff, Gary" <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> List-Post: [email protected] Date: 01/31/2011 04:52 PM Subject: RE: [PSES] NRTL listing for product sold in the United States Sent by: [email protected] ________________________________ As the three stooges said - if at first you don't succeed - keep sucking until you do suck seed. The NEC and OSHA do indeed come into play - but so does the second part of the original post. There are several states that have written into state law requirements for independent inspection. These state laws start to capture consumer products where OSHA is essentially a work place environment and have no authority inside a residential environment so your hair dryer isn't likely covered by OSHA, and the local electrical laws apparently over rule the National Laws. I haven't the foggiest how the state enforces any of this mind you. I can if I want buy a non-UL stove, for example, and as long as the electrical inspector isn't there during home construction there isn't any indication that I've bought something that violates state law. (National law either for that matter) Somebody long ago posted a list of states which had certification/Listing requirements but sadly I've lost the list and its been too long ago to even try and remember the author. It included Washington, Oregon, California and others, but not all. I just forget who they are. The last few days' discussion about the EU's presumption of conformity and whether standards do that or not are pertinent to this discussion as well. E.g. UL won't keep you out of a lawsuit but it might keep you out of debtors prison because you can demonstrate a due diligence kind of thing. -----Original Message----- From: Brian O'Connell [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ] Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 2:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PSES] NRTL listing for product sold in the United States 0. Alaska Dept of Labor AKOSH Program Directive 00-05 1. OSHA Directive No CPL 1-0.3 2. In general, if the AHJ has adopted a recent version of the NEC, then compliance with 29CFR1910 will be required. 3. The Three Stooges Brian > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ]On Behalf Of Jim > Robson > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 1:41 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: NRTL listing for product sold in the United States > > Group, > > I am in a discussion with one of our customers about NRTL listing for > ITE products sold in the US. He sent me this comment. > > "All equipment sold in the State of Alaska as well as at > least 20 other > states is required to be listed by a nationally recognized > testing lab." > > Is anyone familiar with this requirement, know where to find the more > details and where I can find a list of the states that do > require a NRTL > listing? Google didn't help on this one. > > Regards, > Jim Robson - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/> Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. 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