I bought IEC 60974-10 (2007-08) and have read through it. It is fine as it 
goes, but it doesn't really address what the electromagnetic environment 
is like DURING welding. The standard treats welders as just another power 
source and terminates the welder into a "conventional load", which I take 
to mean a resistive load. This is good so far as it goes. The manufacturer 
of the welder has little control over how the welder is used in the field. 
But the customer's concern is about the electromagnetic environment near 
the welder while in use in the field.

So my last (and now most important) question is:
Is there any literature describing the electromagnetic environment around 
TIG and MIG welders while in operation in the field?

I previously wrote:

>We recently had a question from a customer as to whether our products are 
immune to the EMI generated by MIG and TIG welders.
>Our base business is electrical protective relays, so we test everything 
(including products that are not protective relays) to the 
>protective relay standards (e.g., IEEE C37.90.2 radiated immunity, 20 V/m 
with 80% AM, giving a peak field of 36 V/m). So I 
>consider our products to be fairly robust already.

>Question: Are there test standards for products that might be used near 
TIG or MIG welders? Failing that, are there test standards 
>for TIG and MIG welders? Failing both, is there any literature describing 
the electromagnetic environment around these welders?

>I did a bit of reading, and found out that some TIG welders use a high 
frequency, high power burst (almost like a Tesla coil) to start 
>the arc. Sounds pretty nasty to me.

Donald Borowski
Schweitzer Engineering Labs
Pullman, Washington, USA



From:
John Woodgate <[email protected]>
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Date:
10/22/2010 09:02 AM
Subject:
Re: Test Standards for immunity to EMI from TIG and MIG welders?
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In message 
<of71fb0281.9dcde4a8-on882577c4.00539007-882577c4.00550...@selinc.com>, 
dated Fri, 22 Oct 2010, [email protected] writes:

>I did a bit of reading, and found out that some TIG welders use a high 
>frequency, high power burst (almost like a Tesla coil) to start the 
>arc. Sounds pretty nasty to me.

Very like a Tesla coil in fact!

IEC 60974-10 (2007-08) Ed. 2.0 Bilingual English and French
Arc welding equipment - Part 10: Electromagnetic compatibility (EMC) 
requirements

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