Dear John, Thank you very much for the detail information. I did some search on the standards listed. JIS C8712: 2006 refers to IEC 62133: 2002. JIS C8712 is available in Japanese only . JIS C8714: 2007 is available in Japanese and English. JIS standards can be purchased from the Japanese Standard Association at http:/ www.webstore.jsa.or.jp/webstore/Top/indexEn.jsp. Section 6 of JIS C8712: 2006 refers to JIS C8711 for Marking. JIS C8711 (available in Japanese only) refers to IEC 61960: 2003. The marking requirements (Section 5) between JIS C8711: 2006 and IEC 61960: 2003 are identical. Best regards, Grace
On 10/27/08, Tyra, John <[email protected]> wrote: Hello Grace, You are correct in that Lithium Batteries are now regulated in Japan and require the (PS)E circle mark not the <PS>E diamond mark. Here is a summary of what I know Japan's Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry (METI) has added "Lithium batteries:" into a list of regulated DENAN products. The new requirements for Lithium batteries will be implemented on November 20, 2008. Scope: Lithium batteries with its internal energy of 400Wh/L or higher are regulated by DENAN as Non-Specified Product (NSP). NSP requires a PSE Mark (PSE in a circle). Compliance with DENAN Technical Requirements Appendix 9 may be confirmed by a third party testing or manufacturer's own testing. Test reports (and/or certificates) may be required upon request from METI. Lithium batteries physically detached from an end product in a package are covered by DENAN. Replacement Lithium batteries are covered by DENAN. Exclusion: - Lithium batteries physically attached to an end product in a package are excluded. Replacement batteries would need to be compliant - Lithium batteries for automotive - Lithium batteries for medical equipment used in hospital or clinic - Lithium batteries for Industrial Machinery (for examples, commercial measuring instrument, commercial radio, portable terminals used by delivery companies, devices used for satellite or aerospace, & equipment for police/fire department/self-defense military.) - Lithium batteries which are exported outside of Japan - Lithium batteries imported/manufactured before November 20, 2008 - Replacement batteries for end-products whose production would be completed before November 20, 2008. (My need special marking) Standards: - DENAN Technical Requirements Appendix 9: which are equivalent to JIS C8712 and C8714 - Compliance with Overcharge Test and Drop Test will be required after November 20, 2011. Here are links to the Appendix 9 translations http://www.meti.go.jp/policy/consumer/seian/denan/lithium/080703/law.pdf http://www.meti.go.jp/policy/consumer/ eian/denan/lithium/080703/cabinet_order.pdf http://www.meti.go.jp/policy/consumer/ eian/denan/lithium/080703/ministerial_ordinance.pdf http://www.meti.go.jp/policy/consumer/ eian/denan/lithium/080703/technical_requirements.pdf I am not sure about other types of batteries and would be interested if anyone has additional info on other chemistries. Hope this helps. Regards, John John Tyra Manager Product Safety Group Bose Corporation The Mountain, MS-450 Framingham, MA 01701-9168 phone: 508-766-1502 fax: 508-766-1145 From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Grace Lin Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 3:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Cell and Battery Designation in IEC 61960 Hi John, Thank you very much. We have several different types of batteries. Lithium battery is one of them. I believe the Japanese requirement starting November 20, 2008 is for the lithium battery. I assume the PSE mark required is the diamond one (not circle one). Please confirm. Best regards, Grace On 10/27/08, Tyra, John <[email protected]> wrote: Hello Grace, If it is a Lithium battery then it does require a (PS)E mark by November 10th …………what type of battery do you have? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Grace Lin Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 2:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Cell and Battery Designation in IEC 61960 Thank you, Jody. Do you know if PSE mark is required per Japan for the battery? On 10/24/08, Leber Jody-G19980 <[email protected]> wrote: Grace, N5 represents the number of parallel connected cells indicating it belongs to the battery designation. Best Regards, Jody Leber Program Manager [email protected] http://www.motorola.com/producttesting Motorola Product Testing Services 1700 Belle Meade Court Lawrenceville, GA 30043 770.338.3581 P 404.387.1224 C 847.761.3145 F ________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Grace Lin Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 10:21 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Cell and Battery Designation in IEC 61960 Dear Members, Can someone confirm the following "Cell and battery designation" under 5.1 of IEC 61960: 2003? "Battery shall be designated with the following form: N 1 A1 A2 A3 N2 / N3 / N4 – N5 Cells shall be designated with the following form: A 1 A2 A3 N2 / N3 / N4 " The Japanes JIS C8711: 2006 standard has the following designation: "Battery shall be designated with the following form: A1 A2 A3 N2 / N3 / N4 Cells shall be designated with the following form: N1 A1 A2 A3 N2 / N3 / N4 –N5 " Do I miss any amendment or correction to either standard? 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