William
The date of latest announcement is not related to the publication in the OJ, but related to announcement by ETSI . Then I notice on the ETSI site that the citation in the OJ is scheduled on December 2nd, 2008. 12 Publication PU 2008-04-25 2008-04-28 1.4.1 12 V Delivery to the EC 2008-07-28 2008-09-09 12 W Citation in the OJ 2008-12-02 Kind regards, Kris Carpentier Regulatory & Approvals ________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of SYKES WILLIAM T-WRQ876 Sent: donderdag 6 november 2008 17:17 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: EN 300386 - RE: New Official Journal list of EMC standards EN 300 386 is not, and has never has been, listed in the R&TTE OJ. The R&TTE OJ dated June 3, 2008 jumps from EN 300 373-3 to EN 300 390-2. As Kris stated below, the scope of EN 300 386 is for Telecommunications Network Equipment (TNE), not Telecommunications Terminal Equipment (TTE). Additionally, from the EN 300386 v1.4.1 Foreword, "The present document is intended to become a Harmonized Standard, the reference of which will be published in the Official Journal of the European Communities referencing the Council Directive on the approximation of the laws of the Member States relating to electromagnetic compatibility ("the EMC Directive") (89/336/EEC [49] as amended and 2004/108/EC [52])." Therefore, EN 300 386 is not intended for the R&TTE Directive. Which still begs the question, why are EN 300 386 versions v1.2.1, v1.3.1, v1.3.2, and v1.3.3 still listed in the EMC OJ as simultaneously valid standards, while v1.4.1, "adopted" in April 2008, and supposedly has a “Date of latest announcement of this EN (doa)” of 31 July 2008, not listed in an EMC OJ published in November 2008? William T. Sykes Compliance Engineer Motorola Home & Networks Mobility 101 Tournament Drive Horsham, PA 19044 215-323-2619 [email protected] ________________________________ From: Pearson, John [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 8:02 AM To: Carpentier Kristiaan; Barker, Neil; SYKES WILLIAM T-WRQ876; [email protected] Subject: RE: EN 300386 - RE: New Official Journal list of EMC standards There is equipment that is both ________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Carpentier Kristiaan Sent: 06 November 2008 13:00 To: Barker, Neil; SYKES WILLIAM T-WRQ876; [email protected] Subject: RE: EN 300386 - RE: New Official Journal list of EMC standards Neil, This question has been raised a few times in the past years: 300386 excludes terminal equipment beyond the NTP (ref. scope) Kind regards, Kris Carpentier Regulatory & Approvals ________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Barker, Neil Sent: donderdag 6 november 2008 12:04 To: 'SYKES WILLIAM T-WRQ876'; [email protected] Subject: RE: EN 300386 - RE: New Official Journal list of EMC standards William I would expect that this standard is listed under the R&TTE Directive, not the EMC Directive, even though it is an EMC standard; it is primarily an R&TTE standard. Neil Barker Manager Central Quality e2v 106 Waterhouse Lane, Chelmsford, Essex, CM1 2QU, England Tel: +44 (0)1245 453616 Mobile: +44 (0)7801 723735 Fax: +44 (0)1245 453571 www.e2v.com <http://www.e2v.com/> P Consider the environment: do you really need to print this e mail? ________________________________ From: SYKES WILLIAM T-WRQ876 [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 05 November 2008 18:36 To: [email protected] Subject: EN 300386 - RE: New Official Journal list of EMC standards All: EN 300 386 V1.4.1 (04-2008) Electromagnetic compatibility and radio spectrum matters (ERM) — Telecommunication network equipment — Electromagnetic compatibility (EMC) requirements is missing from the list. This ETSI standard list the following dates (I hope this copied table passes without corruption!): National transposition dates Date of adoption of this EN: 11 April 2008 Date of latest announcement of this EN (doa): 31 July 2008 Date of latest publication of new National Standard or endorsement of this EN (dop/e): 31 January 2009 Date of withdrawal of any conflicting National Standard (dow): 31 July 2011 Based on the dates above, should this one have been listed, eventually superseding v1.2.1, v1.3.1, v1.3.2, and v1.3.3 (all supposedly still simultaneously valid)? Is EN 300 386 V1.4.1 usable as a Harmonized Standard giving a presumption of conformity, or wait until published? William T. Sykes Compliance Engineer Motorola Home & Networks Mobility 101 Tournament Drive Horsham, PA 19044 215-323-2619 [email protected] ________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ralph McDiarmid Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 1:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: FW: New Official Journal list of EMC standards EN50178:1997 is missing from this list. Has it been superseded, or is it now a rogue standard? Ralph McDiarmid, AScT Compliance Engineering Group Xantrex Technology Inc. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Jones Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 1:23 AM To: [email protected] Subject: New Official Journal list of EMC standards Everyone A new list of harmonised standards for 2004/108/EC was published in the OJ on 4 November. It may be downloaded from here http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/Lex riServ.do?uri=OJ:C:2008:280:0014:0032:EN:PDF You will see that A1 to EN 55022:2006 has been listed. It may be used now, but does not have to be applied until 1 October 2010. Best wishes Brian Brian Jones EMC Consultant http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ Sent by E2V TECHNOLOGIES PLC or a member of the E2V group of companies. A company registered in England and Wales. Company number; 04439718. Registered address; 106 Waterhouse Lane, Chelmsford, Essex, CM1 2QU, UK. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. 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