That is the argument I used at Wang. 

"How much do you make us every year?  "

"Nothing. But you'd pay out $8 million more a year if we weren't here."

NOT what they wanted to hear. It never is.   FWIW... I have EMC as a
*quality* function. No one else does everything. 

Cheers!

Cortland
KA5S


> I wrote:
> >We are a distinct minority among the engineering  staff where we work.  
> >We are a cost center, not a profit center, and often reminded of that. 
>
>  John Woodgate wrote:
> Without you, your company's products would not be in the market. So your 
> costs should be compared with other **marketing** costs, such as the 
> advertising budget.

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