I have asked for the specific standard and clause that the inspector is using to declare our cart is unacceptable for installing components on the door. The product is a mobile control station for use in industrial process control. It contains a server and UPS in the main enclosure, with a Control Logix controller, Ethernet router and 24VDC power supply on the door. Main incoming power is terminated in the main enclosure through a 16A breaker and protective earth ground is permanently connected to the stainless steel enclosure. The power is then run to the UPS in the main enclosure bottom, then out of the UPS to the door for distribution to all the components through 5A breakers. This also includes coming back across the door hinge to the server and display. A separate permanently attached ground braid is run between the main enclosure and the door, to connect protective earth to the door. Guess I have to look at the EN60204 and see if I can find any problems with our wiring practices.
John From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Allen Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 9:10 PM To: Doug Nix Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PSES] Electrical components on hinged panels Pretty sure it's allowed but would have to verify. EN60204 should be the Standard for the panel. Ask the inspector to point to a Standard and clause. On Dec 21, 2009, at 5:50 PM, Doug Nix <[email protected]> wrote: John, Is this industrial equipment? -- Doug Nix, A.Sc.T. IEEE PSES Toronto Chapter Toronto Section, Ontario, Canada [email protected] mobile (519) 729-5704 fax (519) 653-1318 Find me LinkedIn at http://www.linkedin.com/in/dougnix Fostering Technological Innovation and Excellence for the Benefit of Humanity. Celebrating 125 Years of Engineering the Future. http://www.ieee125.org On 21-Dec-09, at 17:51 , John Cochran wrote: Do you know if there is a CE compliance issue with attaching electrical components to a hinged door? For ease of construction, we often attach components to the access door of our industrial control panel enclosures. UL has evaluated our construction methods and certified us a UL508 Panel Shop. Criteria is that a solid earth ground is attached to the door, and all electrical cables are protected against damage. We are being told by a customer that electrical components are never allowed on a door, in compliance with CE. If UL finds it acceptable, I am not sure why it would be unacceptable for Europe. I have seen many enclosures in Europe with electrical components on a removable panel or door. Is the inspector exercising personal preference, or is there a compliance standard that backs up this decision to reject our wiring practices? Thanks, John Cochran - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <[email protected]> Mike Cantwell <[email protected]> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <[email protected]> David Heald <[email protected]> - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <[email protected]> Mike Cantwell <[email protected]> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <[email protected]> David Heald <[email protected]> - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <[email protected]> Mike Cantwell <[email protected]> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <[email protected]> David Heald <[email protected]>
