There IS a difference between the two scenarios that you lay out John. On the one hand you (or your company) assembles a number of products into a rack for a specific function and that function is internal.
On the other hand you have a manufacturer who decides (with the exact same set of products) to place that solution on the market. If the manufacturer markets that solution (with a Model number or equivalent) then the manufacturer is responsible for the EMC/Safety of said system. Without testing - how does the manufacturer demonstrate compliance to the EMC or Safety directives? I have had to work rack mount solution issues on other companies and we simply couldn't find a way that the company was not held responsible to the directives. Is there a guideline published anywhere that we can reference? Best Regards Charles Grasso Compliance Engineer Echostar Communications (w) 303-706-5467 (c) 303-204-2974 (t) [email protected] (e) [email protected] (e2) [email protected] From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John M Woodgate Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 4:24 AM To: EMC-PSTC Subject: Re: certifying overall products vs. certifying individual constituant chassis In message <[email protected]>, "ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen" <[email protected]> writes > >If you (John) as a private person will do that, there is no problem, >buy a rack or cupboard from Ikea: it's the same. > >But if you ask a company to assemble such as >system (custom made) and sells it to you (independent of the way of >invoice), the company has to accept EC liability for the result, and as >such needs to assess the EMC properties (maybe test) and take suitable >mitigation measures. I understand your point, but I believe that the actual situation is as I have explained it. It simply doesn't make sense that I (my company) can buy a number of products and put them on a shelf, or even install them in a rack, without any EMC issue being raised, but if the manufacturer puts then into a rack for me, he has to spend $$$$ having the rack tested for EMC, and indeed it may not pass, because the acceptable emissions form the items add up to exceed a limit. -- This is my travelling signature, adding no superfluous mass. John M Woodgate - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <[email protected]> Mike Cantwell <[email protected]> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <[email protected]> David Heald: <[email protected]> - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <[email protected]> Mike Cantwell <[email protected]> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <[email protected]> David Heald: <[email protected]>
