I don't want this to be a sales pitch so I will keep this short on sales talk and if you want more information please feel free to contact me for further information or details. I work for Amplifier research (AR) and have had a large part in developing the latest software version SW1007. I'm not the programmer but have lots of experiences in knowing the test standards and running EMC labs. So please know I am partial but don't hold this against me. What are main criteria for software? 1- drivers: - The need to run the equipment you have or will have in the future - The resources to respond to you when a driver does not work or one needs to be added 2- Performs the testing correctly to the standards 3- Flexibility to be modified to meet each labs unique testing procedure 4- Ease of use 5- Report generation and Full documentation 6- Support available when you need it.
Support! Support! Support! is by far the most important aspect. Software is not just a tool it is something that runs and controls your lab. Any problem means you cannot perform your job. So a quick and reasonable response for all issues is a must. Also Is the company going to be there next year when you have the issue or even in 5-10 years from now? You should see the software in action (maybe a Web Demo) and even use it if possible before you buy it. AR has had SW100X series of software out for over 10 years. SW1006 is our current version with SW1007 beta available to all current subscribers. The SW1006 is good and meets most mid-sized labs needs. The new SW1007 which is rewritten from the ground up merges the ease of use of the SW1006 and adds functionality to meet the ever changing standards and lab/equipment setups. At the risk of being overly positive the SW1007 is the best software available for immunity testing that I have seen. And soon will have emissions testing to add to that statement. I hope if you are in the market for new software you let use demo it for you. Brian's questions are answered below. Thank you, Jason H. Smith Manager Applications Engineer ar rf/microwave instrumentation 160 School House Road Souderton, PA 18964-9990 1 (215) 723-8181 Phone 1 (866) 859-0582 Fax www.ar-worldwide.com [email protected] Kunde, Brian wrote: > > All, > > We started out years ago with a purchased EMC test program but there > were few pros and many cons, such as high costs ($15K US), many bugs, > limitations, and a lot of man-hours required to setup the software to > do what you wanted. After years of frustration, be changed gears and > started writing our own software in Labview but this is not without > its issues. > > I would hope by now the new canned EMC test software would be a lot > better. Maybe someone can give specific details about how these new > programs work. E.G.: > > What test methods are supported? Substitution Method? Level On Forward > Power? Level on Field Probe? ALL of the above We meet IEC, MIL, DO160, Automotive standards and anything in between > > Does the software support the Calibration tests? Unified Field? Both > methods called out in the standard? Yes, IEC 16 point & new linearity check > > Does the software support Field Probe Positioners? (we have one and it > is sweet) Yes > > During testing, can you change the volt/per/meter on the fly? Yes > > Can you simply change the modulation method used? Yes > > Does it have troubleshoot modes? Step forward, backward, change power > level, go to specific frequency, change step rate and size on the fly? Yes trouble shooting allows you to step in field/power and frequency 100% complete flexibility while recording each move. This is all graphically displayed so you can visually see where you are in the test. > > If some of the new software has made huge improvements over the years, > maybe it would be something to look at even if you are a lab that have > in the past written your own software. > > Something to think about. > > ONE LAST Question: How do YOU perform Radiated Immunity Test? What > test method do you use? All possible test methods are supported for anechoic chambers. > > Our software levels on forward power at each frequency, then turns on > the modulation. The forward power is calculated from a 16 point > calibration test ran at 18V/m. Any power level between 1 and 10V/m is > calculated and leveled at each frequency on the fly during the test. > Is this how most labs perform this test or do they use the old > substitution method or loop on field probe? It will run the test as you prefer. > > Does canned test software normally support all the different test methods? > > Thanks, > > The Other Brian > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Derek > Walton > Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 10:42 AM > To: Kate Savo > Cc: Ted Eckert; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PSES] Radiated Immunity Software > > Hi All, > > I was a little too tied up to respond to this when it was first posted, > > but I feel I should. First off... a bias warning.... I have a history > > with Teseq's C3 software. OTOH, I have written and used EMC software for > > about 30 years now. > > So, knowing most packages out there, I still feel Teseq's C3 is the > > leader, especially the immunity package. Not only is it compliant to the > > latest standards, but it's a standardized package. What this means is > > that a problem fixed in an installation somewhere gets fixed in yours > > automatically next release. It's released consistently to add features, > > stay current and yep, fix the odd bug. > > C3 was written by Software writers under guidance from many EMC > > engineers and not EMC engineers playing software writer. There is a big > > difference. For those that like to write their own code, you have the > > flexibility to write your own test methods. > > A very neat feature is an area where you can easily interface with what > > ever is being tested for closed loop testing. > > While not formally announced by the factory, a complete rewrite of the > > emissions and immunity packages called C5 should be released early next > > year. For some reason C4 is being skipped :-). > > If you have specific engineering questions feel free to ask me off list. > > Cheers, > > Derek Walton > > L F Research > > Kate Savo wrote: > > > > > > Hi Ted, > > > > > > This question was posted on /Interference Technology's/ Testing Forum, > > > and received a few replies. To view the reply, please visit the link > > > below. > > > > > > http://www.interferencetechnology.com/technologies/testing/forums.html?t x_mmforum_pi1%5Baction%5D=list_post&tx_mmforum_pi1%5Btid%5D=157 > > > > <http://www.interferencetechnology.com/technologies/testing/forums.html? tx_mmforum_pi1%5Baction%5D=list_post&tx_mmforum_pi1%5Btid%5D=157> > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Kate Savo > > > > > > /Interference Technology Forums Editor/ > > > > > > www.interferencetechnology.com/ <http://www.interferencetechnology.com/> > > > > > > 484-688-0300 ext 26 > > > > > > [email protected] > > > <mailto:[email protected]>// > > > > > > *From:* Ted Eckert [mailto:[email protected]] > > > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2009 6:07 PM > > > *To:* [email protected] > > > *Subject:* [PSES] Radiated Immunity Software > > > > > > We are looking for a good software package for performing Radiated > > > Immunity testing to IEC 61000-4-3 in our own in-house anechoic > > > chamber. 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