Christopher No need to repeat 100% dielectric strength testing for Japan <PSE> . You must provide the importer test records showing test has been performed on 100% production. The importer must retain these records for METI inspection.
Peter Sent from my iPhone Peter S. Merguerian [email protected] Go Global Compliance Inc. www.goglobalcompliance.com (408) 931-3303 On Apr 29, 2013, at 4:02 PM, Chris <[email protected]> wrote: > > Carl, > > you not alone dealing with such issues. > > Similar rules also apply to the PSE marketed wall-wort power supply in Japan. > We are also facing 100% dielectric voltage withstand testing be repeated on > all in coming power supplies > Our porduct is a WiFi a/b/g/n device. > I guess the Denon Law prevails and Meti is the agency that is responsible. > > This process adds cost to our 12Vdc power supply. > Labor in Japan is not cheap. > > Christopher > From: Carl Newton <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 11:54 AM > Subject: NRTL requiring duplicate testing > Customer has a medical wall-wort power supply that has the typical NRTL (call > them NRTL1) safety mark that you’d expect to see on a power supply marketed > within the USA. Customer’s entire device is located within the secondary of > that wall-wort power supply and includes no connections to other mains > connected devices. > > Now another one of the large well-known NRTLs (I’ll call them NRTL2) which is > handling the AAMI 60601-1 project for customer’s end product is requiring > that 100% dielectric voltage withstand testing be repeated on the power > supplies. The power supply manufacturer has provided sections of their NRTL1 > File that details the requirement for 100% testing of their supply in > manufacturing as well as the voltage amplitude and duration required. Still, > customer’s NRTL2 is demanding that this test be repeated upon 100% of the > power supplies at customer’s premises. It appears that I have no choice but > to agree to repeat the additional testing. This adds cost to manufacturing > and flies in the face of great efforts on the part of American manufacturers > that try to keep their operations within the USA by maximizing productivity. > I’ve worked on many other projects with wall-wort and external brick power > supplies with other NRTLs and this has never been a requirement. > > I try to keep an open mind even when I’m disagreed with. But I think that > this is the first time in my 30ish years of compliance work that I’ve seen > engineering judgment completely thrown out the window. I’m interested in > other points of view. > > Carl > - > > - > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc > discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to > <[email protected]> > > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: > http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html > > Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at > http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used > formats), large files, etc. > > Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ > Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html > List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html > > For help, send mail to the list administrators: > Scott Douglas <[email protected]> > Mike Cantwell <[email protected]> > > For policy questions, send mail to: > Jim Bacher <[email protected]> > David Heald <[email protected]> - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <[email protected]> Mike Cantwell <[email protected]> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <[email protected]> David Heald: <[email protected]>
