Snooping just poked it's little head into my life recently. There are about a bazillion people monitoring, or capable of monitoring, you, Apple, Samsung, NSA, local police, etc. And even though I knew it was being done I posted a picture to social media that was taken by someone else. The app I was using asked where it was taken. Even thought I had never been to the particular location myself and was physically about 300 miles from that location the app listed several places that were nearby and central to where the picture was actually taken. Yoicks!
Oh did I mention Microsoft? :) (Actually I don't know about Microsoft Ted - primarily pulling your chain this morning) Gmac From: Ted Eckert [mailto:ted.eck...@microsoft.com] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 9:39 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] RF shielding in clothing. I'm curious if users of these shielding pockets will discover the law of unintended consequences. If a cell phone is placed in the pocket, it will have trouble picking up the signal from any cell towers. The phone will boost its transmit power and my try linking to the towers more frequently. I find that my phone's battery is drained much faster in areas with fringe reception. Users of this shielded pocket may find that their battery is dead when they retrieve their phone. Of course, this just bring up the question of why people don't turn off their phone if they are worried about snooping. Even if you use the pocket, your phone has to be pulled out and exposed to be used. On a related note, this article may have been posted before but it has some relation to the subject at hand. http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/09/tin-foil-hats-actually-make-it-easier-for-the-government-to-track-your-thoughts/262998/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.theatlantic.com_health_archive_2012_09_tin-2Dfoil-2Dhats-2Dactually-2Dmake-2Dit-2Deasier-2Dfor-2Dthe-2Dgovernment-2Dto-2Dtrack-2Dyour-2Dthoughts_262998_&d=AAMFAg&c=0hKVUfnuoBozYN8UvxPA-w&r=RJLDFgHJo89sjFN46b74hFXEuxvz4Z1iAx-glaOgP0k&m=PKvfTiSC7PbUbGjtdyVqn3Lz1EXyoEk1kHGXZNpPAZ4&s=GXizzyamVH3TMw-yn4qtvlFNrzFoDk6uqj0tkH4EPFY&e=> Full details with the test setup and results can be found at the following link. http://web.archive.org/web/20100708230258/http://people.csail.mit.edu/rahimi/helmet/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__web.archive.org_web_20100708230258_http-3A_people.csail.mit.edu_rahimi_helmet_&d=AAMFAg&c=0hKVUfnuoBozYN8UvxPA-w&r=RJLDFgHJo89sjFN46b74hFXEuxvz4Z1iAx-glaOgP0k&m=PKvfTiSC7PbUbGjtdyVqn3Lz1EXyoEk1kHGXZNpPAZ4&s=AMtRGFjdWneE2dNGfMFgmr37F9S_0AhleNAklXl0KgQ&e=> Ted Eckert Compliance Engineer Microsoft Corporation ted.eck...@microsoft.com<mailto:ted.eck...@microsoft.com> The opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer. -----Original Message----- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Friday, September 5, 2014 7:28 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] RF shielding in clothing. In message <20140905135401.6037649.303.13...@gmail.com<mailto:20140905135401.6037649.303.13...@gmail.com>>, dated Fri, 5 Sep 2014, Doug Powell <doug...@gmail.com<mailto:doug...@gmail.com>> writes: >Ah yes, > >But can coax cable with a double layer shield claim that much >attenuation at all frequencies? I doubt that braided shields made of such fine filaments would be mechanically strong enough. Semi-rigid coax does pretty well, I believe, with one solid shield. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. With best wishes. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.jmwa.demon.co.uk&d=AAMFAg&c=0hKVUfnuoBozYN8UvxPA-w&r=RJLDFgHJo89sjFN46b74hFXEuxvz4Z1iAx-glaOgP0k&m=PKvfTiSC7PbUbGjtdyVqn3Lz1EXyoEk1kHGXZNpPAZ4&s=3wVAwUJ9r5wFEYFA4CZRuvQFP4SSwZnFlj49DDems5M&e=> Quid faciamus nisi sit? 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