In addition to the responses from Doug, Ghery and Brian, I will note that 
margin protects you from unexpected or unknown changes from component 
suppliers. To some extent, this falls under the manufacturing variance Doug 
mentioned, but component changes is just another area that can be hard to 
control.

I've had IC vendors do a die shrink on a part resulting in sharper edge rates 
on the outputs. At a previous employer, I was running emissions testing on a 
number of samples where Motorola did a die shrink on the microcontroller we 
were using. Some of my test samples had the old part and some had the new. It 
took a long time to figure out why some samples were significantly worse than 
others after controlling for all other variables. Having 6 dB margin to begin 
with provides some protection against this type of change.

Ted Eckert
Compliance Engineer
Microsoft Corporation
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

The opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my 
employer.

From: Itzenheiser, Jerry (GE Healthcare) [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 12:26 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [PSES] Stricter limits than legal (CISPR11, IEC, etc,) Where?


Hello EMCers,
I would like to ask...
Is there anyone out there that tests to stricter limits than the legal (CISPR, 
IEC, etc.) limits? If so, what was the rationale behind selecting the stricter 
limits? Our engineering teams are curious as to where the stricter recommended 
limits come from, such as the 6dB margin for emissions testing.


Thanks,

Jerry Itzenheiser Jr
EMC Technician - Waukesha
GE Healthcare
Global Engineering Technologies
EMC Laboratory Waukesha

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