Agree on properly fused appliance inlet. Corresponding on iPhone limits me to briefer explanations/comments!

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From: John Allen
To: [email protected], [email protected]
Sent: June 23, 2016 at 11:25 AM
Subject: RE: [PSES] insulated wires

Mike


AFAIK, that requirement does not apply if a correctly fused appliance inlet is used  because that should allow smaller gauge wiring from its outlet terminals – and that is quite common (or at least it was) for 60950 equipment.

 

Whilst I am here, I would suggest that because the appropriate UL Recognized wiring generally meets all the same technical requirements (as far as this standard is concerned) that apply for non-US certifications, I would always advocate that it is used where the equipment is going to be widely certified and sold around the World. It is a GOOD IDEA to use UL-Recognized wiring even if you sell mainly outside N.America but eventually want to enter that market, as otherwise it would mean re-specing all the wire in the equipment to get through the relevant certifications/Listings (unless you want to get involved in paying a lot of upfront and on-going fees to the Listing Agency to use something else – from bitter personal experience with equipment which was “dropped on me”, that is NOT a good idea!)

 

John E Allen

W.London, UK

 

From: Mike Sherman ----- Original Message ----- [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 23 June 2016 16:54
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PSES] insulated wires

 

Also be aware that there is a minimum wire gage size for the incoming mains wire inside the equipment.

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From: Brian Kunde
To: [email protected]
Sent: June 23, 2016 at 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: [PSES] insulated wires

Try the US National Electric Code table 310-17 for single conductor insulated wire in free air at 30ºC ambient (hook up wire). Keep in mind that you have to de-rate the values in this chart for bundling (NEC table 310-15-(b)(2)(a)) and temperatures (NEC table 690-31(c))above 30ºC.

The Other Brian

-----Original Message-----
From: Amund Westin [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 8:46 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [PSES] insulated wires

Looking for requirements for single insulated wires (UL, IEC, etc.) used inside an IEC60950-1 product (230VAC).
Any tips where I should start looking?

B.regards
Amund

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