I have been given the advice that correct wire AWG, voltage and temperature rating, combined with the <HAR> symbol, will be sufficient for most applications.
B.Reg. Amund -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: Amund Westin [mailto:[email protected]] Sendt: 29. juni 2016 13:38 Til: [email protected] Emne: [PSES] SV: [PSES] insulated wires Thanks for all feedback. Regarding single insulated wires mounted inside a product, UL Recognized wires will mean no / less / minor discussions, when a 3rd party body (CB Test Lab) is examination the final product. Wires which can't document UL or any other approval, will mean a potential fail verdict when a CBTL is doing the report. Is this a valid kind of summary? B.re. Amund -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: Kunde, Brian [mailto:[email protected]] Sendt: 24. juni 2016 16:15 Til: [email protected] Emne: Re: [PSES] insulated wires Rich, Can you test to determine the rating of a conductor, connector, contact, etc. within our application? I once had a connector we wanted to use in a fairly high current application. The connector manufacture didn't specify a total current rating on the connector but a rating on a single connector pin. Then we had to de-rate for multiple pins and ambient temp and after all that calculating we were about an amp short of our fault current (49 amps calculated, 50 amp fault current). So we contacted the connector manufacturer and they said it would be ok. We ask how they determined that, and they told us they rate their connectors based on a 35ºC rise in temperature. So they suggested we test our application by running up the current to just before the OverCurrent Protection device trips, hold in that condition for up to 4 hours, and see what the temperature rise is. If it is 35ºC or less, it is ok. Is this the method used by wire companies as well? Is this a common test to use in those cases where the rating is unknown or difficult to calculate? Are there better test methods? Thanks for any replies. The Other Brian -----Original Message----- From: Richard Nute [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 12:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PSES] insulated wires Insulated wires, like any other component, must be used within their ratings. Voltage, temperature, ampacity, etc. And, if the equipment is to be certified, the wire must be certified. These days, most wire is surface printed with its ratings and certifications. A typical PVC wire that is used in 60950 products is UL Style 1007 or 1028. One source of information about wire is: http://www.standard-wire.com/downloads/swc_catalog .pdf Rich > -----Original Message----- > From: Amund Westin [mailto:amund@WESTIN- EMISSION.NO] > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 5:46 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [PSES] insulated wires > > Looking for requirements for single insulated wires (UL, > IEC, etc.) used > inside an IEC60950-1 product (230VAC). > Any tips where I should start looking? > > B.regards > Amund > - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. 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