I’m sure the ants collecting on the GFCI and causing a jam was completely a coincidence and had nothing to do with the GFCI refusing to support the governor’s reelection campaign.
But seriously, to support Mr. Schmidt’s supposition, there could be many reasons why ants would congregate on only one breaker. For example, if the breaker had been reset by somebody with traces of food on their fingers, the GFCI could become more attractive just by smell. Ted Eckert Microsoft Corporation The opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer. From: Gies, Don (Nokia - US) [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 8:10 AM To: Ted Eckert <[email protected]>; [email protected] Subject: RE: [PSES] Fire ants I always suspected the additional heat attracted them, but WRT to Mr. Eckert’s theories on New Jersey ants, they probably swore they were tough and were out to prove it by bridging across the electrical contacts. (Ted, I gave you that one!) DON GIES NOKIA Bell Labs SENIOR PRODUCT COMPLIANCE ENGINEER GLOBAL PRODUCT COMPLIANCE LABORATORY 600-700 Mountain Avenue Room 5B-104 Murray Hill, NJ 07974-0636 USA Phone: +1 908 582 5978 Mobile: +1 732 207 7828 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> From: Ted Eckert [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:31 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PSES] Fire ants I would like to note that Mr. Gies is from New Jersey. The adoption of an updated electrical code with expanded use of AFCI breakers was blocked in New Jersey partly through resistance from home construction contractors who didn’t like the higher cost of the new breakers. My theory is that those contractors worked with a mad scientist to develop a strain of ants that attacks AFCI breakers. This was an attempt to “prove” that the AFCI breakers were unreliable. Unfortunately, Mr. Woodgate’s experiments with plutonium resulted in mutations that led the ants to attack the GFCI breakers instead. Ted Eckert The opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily represent those of my employer, entomologist, biologist or the construction industry of New Jersey. From: Adam Dixon [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 6:05 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PSES] Fire ants Follow the links available in Doug's original post to get to the Texas A&M article which references both electric and magnetic field influences. In my locale (Atlanta, GA), University of Georgia folks speculate the attraction is due to thermals (2013 AJC article: http://www.ajc.com/news/news/breaking-news/crazy-ants-the-ants-that-eat-electronics-march-int/nZ3zy/). Looks like there are folks who have been researching this over the past 20 years or so. The GFCI attraction may have been from alien ants like on CBS' Braindead which are intelligent enough to realize that the GFCI is more safe. ;-) Regards, Adam [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 8:25 AM, IEEE <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I wonder if there are any entomologists that are studying this effect? Has anyone looked up any of the ant specialists to see if they’ve been exploring this phenomena? WRT to Don’s experience, I wonder if it’s the magnetic field that is attracting them more than the electric field? The GFCI has some toroidal current transformers that might be part of the attraction… I was also wondering if the abdominal signalling/pheromone release behaviour following the electric shock was a call to battle with a perceived enemy, against which they could not win. I guess if you pile on enough dead ants you can eventually trip the breaker feeding the circuit, and the ants “win”, at least in the moment. Anyway, sounds like we need some bug guys involved in this discussion… Doug Nix [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> +1 (519) 729-5704<tel:%2B1%20%28519%29%20729-5704> On Sep 15, 2016, at 06:14, Gies, Don (Nokia - US) <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Yes. I had a GFCI 20A circuit breaker in my panel feeding my pool pump motor. I went to open my pool last spring and the breaker kept tripping. So, I concluded that the breaker went bad. I opened up the breaker panel to change the breaker and found that the GFCI breaker was infested with ants (regular ones, not fire ants), but interestingly, the GFCI breaker was the ONLY breaker in the entire panel that had ants. DON GIES NOKIA Bell Labs SENIOR PRODUCT COMPLIANCE ENGINEER GLOBAL PRODUCT COMPLIANCE LABORATORY 600-700 Mountain Avenue Room 5B-104 Murray Hill, NJ 07974-0636 USA Phone: +1 908 582 5978<tel:%2B1%20908%20582%205978> Mobile: +1 732 207 7828<tel:%2B1%20732%20207%207828> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> From: Doug Powell [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 6:04 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [PSES] Fire ants All, I was wondering if anyone has any real experiences with fire ant infestation in electrical equipment that they would be willing to share. http://articles.extension.org/pages/30057/ants-and-electrical-equipment It seems to me that for high current contractors and electrical disconnects (not using self-wiping contacts) with contaminants between connection points can result in resistive connections, I^2R heating, potential arcing and if enough voltage is present, series arc faults which over time can erode connections and result in a fire. 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