That's what I meant by 'quite complicated'. It might well take months for someone to fully understand all the multifarious requirements, exemptions and restrictions. Meanwhile, the EU Commission is busy moving the goalposts. With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO – Own Opinions Only <http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk/> www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England Sylvae in aeternum manent. From: john Allen [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 6:49 PM To: 'John Woodgate' <[email protected]>; [email protected] Subject: RE: [PSES] 2nd hand or refurbished products IIRC the regulations for such products are essentially that they must comply with those that were in place when they were placed on the market in the EU/EEA, and provided that they are in the “same” configuration and modification state as that when placed on the market – OTOH, if they have been modified (e.g. updated components/assemblies providing more/different capabilities than as when originally shipped – and even updated s/w could be an issue if that affects the safety/EMC/etc., Directives requirements compliance), in which case they are required to meet the requirements that are current at the time the modifications are made, and updated compliance documentation, including possibly a new CE DoC, to adequately confirm compliance with those current requirements. That’s a generalization but that is from where I would start when assessing whether further compliance work is required - I would also refer to the latest edition of the Commission’s “Blue Guide” as I think that does provides relative guidance. John E Allen W.London, UK From: John Woodgate [ <mailto:[email protected]> mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 27 October 2016 18:32 To: <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] Subject: Re: [PSES] 2nd hand or refurbished products This is quite complicated. Unless it causes a major problem, assume they do apply. Second-hand and refurbished products are not treated in the same way, because second-hand products may be offered for private sale by people who don't have all the necessary resources. With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO – Own Opinions Only <http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk/> www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England Sylvae in aeternum manent. From: Scott Xe [ <mailto:[email protected]> mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 6:12 PM To: <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] Subject: [PSES] 2nd hand or refurbished products Are EU chemical directives such as packaging directive, RoHS, REACH and safety directives applied to 2nd hand or refurbished products? Thanks and regards, Scott - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) <http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Mike Cantwell <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > David Heald <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: <http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html> http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at <http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/> http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: <http://www.ieee-pses.org/> http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: <http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: <http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html> http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> Mike Cantwell < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> David Heald < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]>
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