Hello, Chet.
If it's all 5V DC powered, you don't need to consider the EN, because
the Low Voltage Directive doesn't apply for 5 V stuff. But you may need
to consider IEC 62368-1 for other countries. It is not exactly the same
as the EN. There are requirements for emissions from LEDs, but no
specific requirements for IR interfaces. EN 55032 and EN 55035 apply in
Europe and CISPR 32 and CISPR 35 in other countries. Again, the EN and
the CISPR standards are not exactly the same.
John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK
On 2018-04-03 23:14, Chester Summers wrote:
Hi John,
I’ve learned the plan is to offer a /fixed kit/ of software, custom
low voltage (5Vdc) electronic controllers, OEM CAN/USB translator
device, wiring harness and mounting hardware. The PC, VR hardware &
wall wart will be specified but not provided. All very low power
5Vdc, no a.c. mains connection HW provided.
With this configuration none of the kit is (yet) tested for safety.
Does EN 62368-1 include provisions for testing IR interfaces? I’ve
read that LEDs have new requirements in 62368-1. (The joystick
controllers use IR to communicate with the VR bits.)
Thank you for the recommendations,
Chet
*From:*John Woodgate [mailto:[email protected]]
*Sent:* Friday, March 30, 2018 2:13 PM
*To:* Chester Summers <[email protected]>;
[email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [PSES] COTS system compliance
Is this a 'one-off' - a unique assemblage, or a 'bespoke' assemblage
where each one is different, according to buyers' requirements, or a
'catalogue item', where many identical assemblies are made and
shipped? This matters, because the EMC Directive treats the three
categories differently. The description fits EN 55032, and for
immunity you should look now at EN 55035, not EN 55024. For safety,
apply EN 62368-1.
If each constituent product already complies with EN 60950-1 or EN
62368-1 and you just plug them together, you shouldn't need any more
safety testing.
If anything included uses 'wireless' (that magnetic induction or
radio-frequency, but not infra-red) the RED applies to that product only.
John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
J M Woodgate and Associateswww.woodjohn.uk
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.woodjohn.uk&d=DwMD-g&c=G4BpsyPyB19LB50bn2swXw&r=uQYjlohUH2VwYVcMCZDVOGnwYsWulCG18FqsT19OrFM&m=PpmGBGSuHo-PCTfLi4qy6Q4avJna1BXdwJFuO8CMEn8&s=ocrJyZPVxSHSRhKQKhQwE1-VQfpaNMepjjMxLIFkRr8&e=>
Rayleigh, Essex UK
On 2018-03-30 18:27, Chester Summers wrote:
Dear experts,
Would a machine training simulator composed (primarily) of COTS
video displays, PC, and VR headset be subject to EN 55032 & EN
55024, or is there another option? Would the generic standards
route make more sense?
The intended user environments are dealer training facilities and
the occasional showroom floor (therefore expecting “Class B”
emissions). Primary purpose of system is construction machinery
training, not entertainment. I do not believe Machinery Directive
applies here and wish to evaluate the system under EMCD and LVD.
This seems reasonable in that the end hardware function is very
similar to a video game platform, albeit with training software
and slightly different controllers.
What degree of product safety evaluation should I prepare for
assuming I can get copies of CB certs for all purchased ITE/AV
subassemblies? I’m anticipating a mixture of mostly EN 60950 and
maybe EN 62368. I’ve not verified yet but have been assured all
purchased subassemblies are either CSA or UL listed.
Would a construction review be sufficient or is formal safety
testing a must and should I involve a NRTL? I don’t have all the
details of the power distribution network, but I believe it is not
much more than a central plug strip/UPS and possibly power
switched through the central PC.
Lastly, one possible sales option is “PC delete”, where customer
gets VR apparatus, software and controllers. If the controllers
happen to be wireless (e.g. joysticks, keyboards) does this
software/controller bundle become subject to the RED?
Please feel free to contact me directly or reply to the group.
Kind regards,
Chet Summers
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
This email and any files transmitted with it from Charles Machine
Works are confidential and intended solely for the use of the
individual or entity to which they are addressed. -
----------------------------------------------------------------
This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society
emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your
e-mail to <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at:
http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.ieee-2Dpses.org_emc-2Dpstc.html&d=DwMD-g&c=G4BpsyPyB19LB50bn2swXw&r=uQYjlohUH2VwYVcMCZDVOGnwYsWulCG18FqsT19OrFM&m=PpmGBGSuHo-PCTfLi4qy6Q4avJna1BXdwJFuO8CMEn8&s=j6IJIj6oIZCr1xzsldEZAPhbbnUGUERQRKFlpbkHIlY&e=>
Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities
site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__product-2Dcompliance.oc.ieee.org_&d=DwMD-g&c=G4BpsyPyB19LB50bn2swXw&r=uQYjlohUH2VwYVcMCZDVOGnwYsWulCG18FqsT19OrFM&m=PpmGBGSuHo-PCTfLi4qy6Q4avJna1BXdwJFuO8CMEn8&s=CaS-5I7PVjFPI9QGjXMfmixxsR_AHQ-NlNmuKfLoiFU&e=>
can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc.
Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.ieee-2Dpses.org_&d=DwMD-g&c=G4BpsyPyB19LB50bn2swXw&r=uQYjlohUH2VwYVcMCZDVOGnwYsWulCG18FqsT19OrFM&m=PpmGBGSuHo-PCTfLi4qy6Q4avJna1BXdwJFuO8CMEn8&s=kQlcNz8k77SnwURY_vyiBdsaIhucMIBn87Adg2PptR4&e=>
Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to
unsubscribe)
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.ieee-2Dpses.org_list.html&d=DwMD-g&c=G4BpsyPyB19LB50bn2swXw&r=uQYjlohUH2VwYVcMCZDVOGnwYsWulCG18FqsT19OrFM&m=PpmGBGSuHo-PCTfLi4qy6Q4avJna1BXdwJFuO8CMEn8&s=v1WpL5OKJOIFNLc35kOAuEaWxuVpBxsPFyV53j3Avf0&e=>
List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.ieee-2Dpses.org_listrules.html&d=DwMD-g&c=G4BpsyPyB19LB50bn2swXw&r=uQYjlohUH2VwYVcMCZDVOGnwYsWulCG18FqsT19OrFM&m=PpmGBGSuHo-PCTfLi4qy6Q4avJna1BXdwJFuO8CMEn8&s=cnK2JNk_C-YeDT9xHw8-tcPAvOGq1hmH2ggu4FD4YAY&e=>
For help, send mail to the list administrators:
Scott Douglas <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
Mike Cantwell <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
For policy questions, send mail to:
Jim Bacher <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
David Heald <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
This email and any files transmitted with it from Charles Machine
Works are confidential and intended solely for the use of the
individual or entity to which they are addressed.
-
----------------------------------------------------------------
This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion
list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]>
All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at:
http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html
Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at
http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used
formats), large files, etc.
Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/
Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)
List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html
For help, send mail to the list administrators:
Scott Douglas <[email protected]>
Mike Cantwell <[email protected]>
For policy questions, send mail to:
Jim Bacher: <[email protected]>
David Heald: <[email protected]>