Hi Chris, hi all, 

i have asked Brian V. Smith, the original xfig author, regarding our little
issue. He sais:

> xfig is not GPL, but there are no restrictions on distributing it, selling 
> it, or whatever one likes, as long as the copyrights are kept with the code.
> The README and source files all have the copyright info in them.
>
> I don't really know the ins and outs of GPL, but I don't have any problem
> with xfig being combined with GPLd code.  xfig is itself contains several
> other copyrighted but freely distributable code. 
This IMHO doesn't 100% match what his license sais, but it means that he
doesn't have any objections to such a mixed work and that's imho what counts
here. 

If you, Chris, also say that you don't have a problem with a version where
i just mix those two licenses i would dare to put everything online again.

The result will be some weird double licensed thing with two licenses that
imho contradict each other to some little extent. But i basically take Brians
word that he would accept a GPL'd version of xfig. I think if i add the GPL to
the archive and add the appropriate comments to the file that contains
Chris' code we should be fine.

Would this be ok for you, Chris?

Till


Am Montag 25 Juni 2007 schrieb Chris Radek:
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 05:09:50PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Chris:  Without trying to be a lawyer cuz I'm not, just curious, what was
> > the objection based on?
>
> Whoah right there!  I don't object to anyone making a derivative work
> of my truetype-tracer.  I encourage such things - that's why I used
> the GPL license in the first place.
>
> I initially contacted Till because there were binaries but no
> corresponding source on his webpage.  He fixed that immediately, no
> problem.  He just hadn't put up the source files yet.
>
> Later, he discovered this other problem about the conflicting
> licenses.
>
> I am not sure if xfig and truetype-tracer are incompatible.  The
> GPL requires that a derivative work also be distributed under the
> GPL, but the xfig license allows the program to become proprietary:
>
>          Any party obtaining a copy of these files is granted,
>          free of charge, a full and unrestricted irrevocable,
>          world-wide, paid up, royalty-free, nonexclusive right
>          and license to deal in this software and documentation
>          files (the "Software"), including without limitation
>          the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish
>          distribute, sublicense and/or sell copies of the
>          Software, and to permit persons who receive copies from
>          any such party to do so, with the only requirement
>          being that the above copyright and this permission
>          notice remain intact.
>
> Since Till's right to "modify/merge/publish/distribute" xfig is
> "unrestricted", it might be possible for him to use the GPL for the
> combined work.  I don't know what it means for this "notice" to
> "remain intact" but that's a requirement.  Is "intact" the same as "in
> effect"?  I hope someone else who knows more than me can help.
>
> I think this is a cool and useful project and hope it's possible for
> Till to release it under the terms of the GPL.  But, I suspect the
> intent of the xfig authors was to allow anyone to make the program
> proprietary (even if the words don't say exactly that).  In that case,
> Till unfortunately can't satisfy both licenses and cannot distribute
> the combined work.  I appreciate his care/attention in this matter.
>
> Chris
>
>
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