I just tested that out:

telnet outgoing.verizon.net 25

It worked. It let me in. I have lots of different addresses through my host
for different services, or groups, several of which have been for other list
serves (PHP, a few for Maya - the 3D package, etc.), and haven't seen this
particular issue yet. That's why it felt so confusing, and out of the blue.

But anyway, I seem to be able to use Gmail, and I like it, so at least now I
no longer need help on getting help in the first place :)

Thanks!
-g

On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 6:04 PM, Eric H. Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Gary,
>
> Some band width providers will block socket 25 as a measure to cut down on
> spam. When you receive mail, that goes through another service (POP3 is
> the
> most common) which is on a different port (110 for POP). This can explain
> why you are able to receive, but not send. The way to test this is to do
> the
> following in a terminal session (command prompt on Windoze):
>
> telnet <SMTP server name> 25
>
> The SMTP server name is the one you set up for outgoing mail on your
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] email account and '25' specifies the SMTP socket.
>
> If the connection times out, then socket 25 is being blocked. If you get a
> telnet session (it should start "220 <SMTP Server name>...) then you have
> a
> different problem. Additionally, if this is the problem, then you should
> not
> be able to send to any email address, not just this list.
>
> Having said that, I also have Verizon at home and it is not blocking
> socket
> 25 for me.
>
> Regards,
> Eric
>
> I set up an account for this list - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - through my host,
> but couldn't reply to the confirmation email from Thunderbird on Linux at
> home. It would send, and go into my outbox, but nothing would ever come of
> it. I had to click through to the site (from Thunderbird), and confirm it
> there. I then couldn't send, nor reply to any message ever from
> Thunderbird,
> though I tried several times to do both over the past few weeks, hoping it
> would finally take. It would, however, always let me send, and reply from
> the web interface. I'm not sure why, as it's the same account - just a
> different interface on my end, and a different outbound server (verizon at
> home / probably my host - hostrocket - at work).  Thunderbird was
> receiving
> every list message, including the ones I'd sent through the web interface.
> Every message sent through the web version always made it, and promptly.
> Clearly, the Verizon server's version of my mail was just being dropped,
> probably by the list, as I've not had that problem sending mail anywhere
> else, and have for years now, including to about 5 other list serves.
>
> Anyway, I just thought I'd mention this, with details, in case anyone in
> here has power over these things. Maybe it's just a flipped switch, or
> someone's chair is on the internet cable ;)
>
> Also, a big thanks to Gene Heskett for answering my RTAPI error question
> from last night. I forgot about my mail troubles, and downloaded the
> messages into Thunderbird this morning, and of course, can't reply to that
> one now from in there. It would seem I can use this new Gmail address from
> now on, so I'm moving to this account, and dumping the cnc@ address from
> my
> host. I use Gmail daily anyway, so it's not a big deal, but it's
> frustrating
> that I can't use any personal email through my own server.
>
> I may have more questions about RTAPI issues, but I'll start a new thread
> with this address should it come to that.
>
> Thanks again.
> -Gary
>
>
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