The machine is a brand new SHERLINE mill.  There generaly is no problem, just 
durning this particular test. This brand new machine certainly should be able 
raise itself. It's not a mechinical bind but rather a driver / motor setting.

John
Kim Mortensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :

> Would be interresting to know what your mechanical and electrical setup is
> like.
> 
> leadscrew/reduction/motor/current/weight etc.
> 
> Best Regards
> Kim Mortensen
> 
> 2008/11/1 Jon Elson [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> > John Domville wrote:
> > > Lawrence G
> > >    Ok, I finally got around to running the test you suggested.   The
> > first
> > > couple moves (test #1) up and down
> > > Are ok, but after that the tip gets lower and lower into the piece. 
> Also
> > > the motor makes a binding noise just
> > > Before it starts screwing up. Sounds like the motor is trying to move
> two
> > > opposite directions at the same time.
> > > Never did get to test two. So where do we go now?   This by the way is
> > with
> > > a config file that uses + as a Z axis up
> > > And - as a Z axis down.  Had a pencil stub loosely in the collet  during
> > the
> > > test and it kept getting pushed further and further
> > > Into the collet until I forced a stop to the program before the face of
> > the
> > > collet went in to the bed surface.
> > >
> > Well, any time you are losing position with the Z axis dropping lower
> > and lower, you have to look at the capability of the motor to raise the
> > head.  if you are overloading the motor due to the weight of the head,
> > then it will lose steps when moving up.  I'm assuming this is a machine
> > with a milling head or router that is raised by the motor, not a machine
> > with a lightweight quill.
> >
> > First thing to try is to run the same program at lower speed (try 50%
> > feed override, then 25%, then 10%).  If it works OK at lower speed, that
> > is an indication that your steppers can't deliver the torque needed for
> > upward movement PLUS acceleration at that velocity.  (Steppers are
> > stronger, generally, at lower speeds.)  You may have to lower the
> > maximum velocity setting in your .ini file to whatever the machine can
> > reliably do.
> >
> > If the head is very heavy, you may have to go with a stronger stepper
> > motor, or go to a 2:1 belt reduction ratio to get more torque at the
> > leadscrew.
> >
> > Jon
> >
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