On Saturday 04 July 2009, James Reed wrote:
>Richard:
> No one is here with the intent to make you mad, deceive you, or coerce you
> into developing something.   As near as I can determine, everyone has tried
> to be patient and caring.  The trouble is, these dedicated people are
> trying to advance the EMC project, provide support, and document everything
> on their own time, donating every bit of it.  That's how open source
> happens most of the time.
>
>I'm not trying to deny you have frustrations, just trying to let you know
> you are chasing away the very people you need to succeed.
>
>I, too, when I first started trying to learn here got very frustrated.  As I
> continued on, I even quit for a while.  Then I realized it was not those
> people (who had already tried to help me tremendously - as they have you) 
> that I was frustrated with, but my own progress. To solve that, I printed
> out each of the manuals, read them front to back at least 3 times, and
> practiced on little projects until I could remember at least a few of the
> tricks and commands. (I'm a slow learner as everyone on the EMC project
> probably knows).
>
>I still forget things and where they are located, and occasionally get
> reminded of that on the mailing list or chat lines.
>
>As far as your concern of running a 7i43 right out of the box, I can't and
> haven't found that claim anywhere.  I'm not saying you're wrong, I just
> never saw it.  Actually, some good has come out of your ranting in the way
> of Ted Hyde's description which helped many of us anticipating the use of
> the Mesa boards, but I wouldn't expect any more progress, as you're beating
> up on your helpers.
>
>Please step back, see if you really want to pursue EMC and work with the
> developers and helpers, and then proceed accordingly.
>
>PS:  I noticed you wanted the people of EMC to step back and take time to
> understand your problem.  That is exactly what the EMC people are trying to
> say to you.  Take the time to study your problem, reasearch all you can,
> and study the documents to understand what is going on.  Then, if you
> politely show you have done your homework, they will be much more willing
> to pursue your problem.

Extremely well said James.  Thanks.  I have yet to ask a question (more often 
than not based on an incomplete understanding on my part) that wasn't answered 
by someone here, (or on IRC) sometimes directly, and sometimes with a pointer 
to the wiki so I could do my own detective work, but I have always rx'd a 
helpful answer.

Sometimes it is up to the questioner to recognize that the answer he got is in 
fact helpful.  That means one must be willing to help himself too.

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