On Tuesday 07 July 2009, Peter Cauchy wrote:
>Thanks for the replies,
>
>Part of the issue is I do not have the mill completely square, and it
>was cutting without stuttering, but I was tightening the tolerances and
>started losing steps due to friction.

That is often something that can be helped with the right lube, and its been 
recommended to use a Mobil product called Vectron (IIRC) for that.  Unforch it 
only comes in 5 gallon pails, which would be several of my remaining lifetimes 
worth, so I have not obtained any of it, yet.

>Gene,
>
>my driver is a CMD-50c  which can handle 15-40v, and 3.5 amps, but I do
>not have access to anything above the 19v I currently have.

A fairly common surplus (from M.P.Jones maybe?) 25.2 volt transformer feeding 
a full wave bridge should give around 35 volts assuming a sufficient sized 
filter capacitor. How much current do the motors say they need?  Multiply that 
by the number of motors to get the total current you need.  Then you know how 
big a transformer you need (they can be paralleled for more amperage) and how 
much current the FW bridge needs to be rated at or above.

Generally speaking, these drivers won't be happy when running on a regulated 
supply, because the stepper motors can also send power back to the supply, and 
regulated ones don't absorb this back current at all well & may even shut 
down.  So its best to just have a large (2200 uf or more) capacitor as the 
filter that can absorb these surges without actually running the voltage above 
the drivers ratings even for a microsecond.  I built mine from the remains of 
an old 2" video recorder, one of the half ton models and it had a pair of 
75,000 uf caps, but that is extreme overkill.

If you have a 30" x table, that is going to need the biggest Nema 23 motors, 
Jeff at xylotex has some nice ones that can make 400 oz or more, or even a 
Nema 34.  I have a Nema 23 rated at 425 oz on my Z axis, 10 tpi acme screw, 
with a 17/42 gilmer belt type stepdown rigging between motor and screw, and at 
2.5 amps, I can put 155 pounds of down force on a drill bit to drill a hole.  
My X/Y motors are smaller 225 oz versions, direct coupled to the micromills 20 
tpi acme screws, and they can break a 1/4" solid carbide mill in a heartbeat 
if the spindle stalls, so that should give you an idea of what it takes to at 
least get started.

>Thanks for everything, it looks like I will be looking for other motors.
>The z-axis is 4 in and works  alright, but the y-axis at 14 inches is
>underpowered, and the x-axis at 30 inches hardly moves without stuttering.

I can see why, although those motors could probably move it at 3 or 4 ipm at 
that voltage, they may stall when actually cutting.  The z probably doesn't 
have what it takes to drill a hole in ferrous material.

>Chris,
>
>I did change the step output to be inverted as you suggested, and no
>noticeable change in speed.

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