> Is an apology you are looking for?
>   
Is .NOT.
I'm just telling everyone(over and over) who says i had .NOT. read 
manuals, .AND. didn't asked help following protocols, and a lot of 
etc... that was .NOT. my fault, i did what i always do, fist read docs 
then make my decission, then if something does not work, ask for help. 
.AND. i have found some people who likes to put blame on others without 
even stop to read, not only what i wrote, but neither the manual i 
refferenced.(1 year ago)

BUT!... i would like some kind of that (apologise) from people who can 
only read a single sentence and think the whole paragraph meaning is there.
I know that the people behind EMC development (or at least some of them) 
did and do read and think correctly, but there seems to be a lot of this 
list readers/writers who can't stop to think a little bit about what 
they read .AND. .OR. where things point to.


Just trying to end this.

Best regards.



> I am a member of EMC's development.  I, personally am sorry
> that your experience with EMC was less then what you hoped.
> I can assure you no one was trying to pull a fast one on you.
> Certainly no one was trying to fraud you.
> The hostmot2 software was and is very new. When the person who
> writes the software tests it it is fairly easy to miss bugs because the 
> person tends to use it as he intended. The more it is used by other people
> (especially non programmers) the more these are flushed out. As Developers
> we support this by fixing them as best and fast as we can. Now programmers 
> (as a rule) are just terrible about documentation. Docs are boring - new 
> features
> are fun. 
> Actually the docs are way way better now then even a year ago, as far as 
> being 
> up to date, correct and usable. But they are just like the software / 
> programmers. 
> When you write them they make sense to you but you knew what you meant!
> On top of that, in a rapidly developing project it's pretty easy to have the 
> docs 
> (usually just slightly) out of date. 
>
> We are not perfect - we just try to do our best.
>
> On our side, yes maybe we need to evaluate how we release or advertise the
> state of our software. In fact we have already discussed it in general, to 
> avoid
> problems.
> The real problem comes that we think it is right/ bug free because we have 
> tested / used it . But the software is complicated and flexible- we need more 
> people to test / use it. We don't pay people to test. I'm pretty sure profit 
> companies do. So we release it. If and when problems come up we fix them.
> In most cases the problems that come up are obscure / minor anyways.
> Usually this works very well-sometimes not so well.
>
> I understand it can be very frustrating, it is frustrating for us too- we 
> want people
> to have success and fun with EMC!
> But no one likes to be 'beat-up' over these problems, especially if we are 
> not paid
> to put up with it. We do this because we like the challenge, or like to give 
> back,
> or like to tinker.....
>
> So Richard again I am sorry things worked out so badly for you.
> If you still want help with using the mesa board and EMC we can
> help but you have to stop the negativity now. Your point is across now
>
> To everyone else: We got our point across too - lets move on to some
> positive energy. If things need changing to help a new person out then
> lets hear it or volunteer to help do it. If there is problems or 
> disappointments
> lets get to the point, keep the negativity to the minimum,  And lets fix it!
>
> I think what this situation is really saying is that EMC is getting heard 
> about-
> now it's not just the gurus and power tinkers that want to use it, regular 
> people who don't want to invest the time to learn why something works 
> they just want to use it. As far as I'm concerned I say welcome- we'll try to 
> help.
>
> Chris Morley
>  
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