richard harris wrote:
> This code has more linear inches of motion and is longer than the program 
> that was exhibiting issues.
> I ran it three times without the coolant or spindle running, i had two other 
> machines running at the same time as i did the other day. I also had halmeter 
> showing the encoder count, not sure if it would show anything of value but i 
> was curious. The machine repeated within the tolerance of the indicator..
> I then ran it three times with the coolant and spindle running and witnessed 
> two thousands of motion lost over the three runs.  However Halmeter showed 
> the same number of encoder counts.
>   
I think halmeter will ALWAYS show the same count, as EMC will always 
move such that
at a particular commanded position, the count will be the same.  The 
problem is that the encoder is presumed
to actually be at a different position than EMC is seeing.
> I am assuming two things, 1 my problem is noise, 2 the error was less during 
> the test because i did not load the spindle.  Do those sound like reasonable 
> assumptions?
>   
I agree strongly with #1, not sure about #2.  The different program may 
have a lot more
to do with it than the spindle load.  But, you could also be quite 
right.  Do you have a VFD
on your spindle?  These are VERY noisy devices.  Make sure there is a 
good ground conductor
between the VFD and the motor frame.  You may need to put a noise filter 
on the line input to
the VFD.  If the spindle motor wires and VFD supply wires run near any 
other wires, suspend them
away from other wiring and rerun this test.
> My plan at the moment is get a differential receiver on all the encoders, and 
> run new wires on the x-axis just in case.  If these mods don't improve the 
> situation I'm thinking of adding a line reactor to the VFD.
> Any other straight forward things I can do to improve the noise situations?
>   
A line reactor, by itself may not help much (or it might).  A complete 
EMI filter is a
better way to go.  You may be able to find one at a surplus store.  The 
kind used
to protect a rack of computers is the sort that works best in these 
cases, I have one
on my mill's VFD.

The differential receiver should help, but good noise control practices 
are still
important.

Jon

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