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From: "Jon Elson" <el...@pico-systems.com>
To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Bridgeport spindle encoder


> Andy Pugh wrote:
>> As for speed signal noise, my speed signal is fairly random, (it is a
>> home-made encoder ring with slot-sensors) but using the right PID
>> values seems to filter that effect adequately.
>>
> Well, I guess I will have to try this out.
>> I have just thought of another way of doing the same thing that might
>> work, you could potentially make a "gasket with mounting tabs" with
>> the sensors on the (folded down) tabs and the remainder clamped
>> between the castings over the full mating surface. I guess that would
>> depend on how critical the casting separation is, ie whether there is
>> a bearing in the top cover or something else that "cares".
> The direct drive clutch is between these two parts, so spreading them
> apart very much would possibly make the clutch not engage at all.
>
> Jon
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I use speed feedback on my lathe, filtered it using existing Hal functions. 
On threading my counter gets reset (spindle encoder) and would be an 
enormous negative speed, I limited the rate of change of speed to be 
realistic, I don't allow it to go from 800rpm forward to millions of rpm 
reverse in a millisecond.

Instead of inputs for belt position and back gear, could you use a single 
index input on the motor and use the gear teeth that are counted between 
motor revolutions to calculate the ratio between the motor and spindle? 
Would their be a way to make the path hold up until the spindle was at 80% 
command speed?  I've heard of EDM feeding based on voltage, thought maybe 
feed rate could be based on spindle rpm.

Roger Neal


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