Jon, I will try to switch my Y axis to torque mode to see if it helps
with spurious oscillations.

The "bad brushes" may be a good explanation. But I feel like I should
try torque mode for many reasons.

- Igor



On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Jon Elson <[email protected]> wrote:
> Igor Chudov wrote:
>> Also, could it be that my "servos cannot calm down" issue is somehow
>> caused by noise getting into the tachometer signal? I did install
>> ferrite cores on the motor cables, and they are twisted at least going
>> to the main terminal block of the mill. But perhaps I still missed
>> something.
>>
> Yes, it is possible.  It is also possible the brushes in your tach are
> dirty or just plain
> worn out.  You could hook the tach to an oscilloscope and turn the motor
> by hand
> or with a battery.  If you see a lot of spikes or discontinuities, that
> is real bad for
> a servo loop.  I did some testing about a decade ago trying to figure
> out how slow
> an axis could move, and I got it down to where the tach would have been
> producing
> about 7 microvolts.  This was however enough to keep the servo loop
> closed, as if I
> shorted the tach with a screwdriver, the servo amp would immediately
> fault out.
> If brush noise is the problem, you may be able to put a 0.1 uF capacitor
> across the
> tach inputs at the servo amp to suppress this, but it is likely to
> slowly get worse.
> Or, possibly, continued use will actually improve the problem, as the
> tach's commutator
> may have tarnished while the machine sat, before you bought it, now it
> is getting cleaned.
> I give the caution about not scoping the tach signal while the machine
> is running, as
> it may cause ground loop problems, depending how the tach connection to
> the servo
> amp is set up.
>
> I used 3 instrumentation amps in my own servo amp design, one for
> command input,
> one for tach input and one for current sensing.  These eliminated all
> ground loops
> in the servo system.  Many servo amps leave these out due to cost, and
> therefor
> suffer some ground loops between one servo amp, through the common grounds
> and back to another servo amp.
>
> Jon
>
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