That looks very inventive on IBC's part.  I would have to agree with Jon, 
however, in gutting the electronics because it looks like a linear actuator 
might take the place of the solenoid.  The type like a hollow stepper motor 
with a moving leadscrew (http://www.haydonkerk.com) could be your new Z-axis 
with one more Geckodrive. Just a thought.
jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Dale Grover [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 1:42 PM
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PCB engraver, spindle solenoid

Here's a picture of the front:  http://www.redcedar.com/misc/IBC_BM2222.jpg

The brass cylindrical object is the solenoid; it pushes down right
where that green button is.  To the right is the spindle motor.  Just
to the right of the cutter is the foot with a wear button on the
bottom; this depth is adjusted via the knurled nut.  The cutter is
secured in the collet with a set screw (1/8" dia cutters).

The spindle motor, foot, and cutter all move up and down on two 1/2"
or so steel rods with linear bearings.  In this photo, the top
surface of the machine has been removed, so you can see the 5/8" ball
screw below.

--dg

At 12:23 PM -0500 9/21/10, James Louis wrote:
>Dale,
>
>Do you have any pictures of the solenoid available?  I'm curious
>about how this can be used for a Z-axis.  It sounds interesting.
>
>Jim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dale Grover [mailto:[email protected]]
>Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 10:58 AM
>To: EMC User List
>Subject: [Emc-users] PCB engraver, spindle solenoid
>
>I'm fixing up an IBC BoardMaker 2222, a 22" x 22" PCB engraver.  So
>far I've replaced the Y axis with a McMaster-Carr 5/8" ball screw &
>nut, which had been a proprietary-threaded rod with self-adjusting
>anti-backlash (plastic) nut that self-destructed, and replaced the
>stepper drivers with Gecko G251's.
>
>The machine uses a solenoid to move the spindle down until a
>wear-button hits the PCB, thus establishing the cutter height.
>Spring return.
>
>My question is about the solenoid drive.  There are two identical
>circuits--both are logic-level in (from a db-25 parallel port)
>driving a relay that supplies +45V to the solenoid (i.e., they are in
>parallel), though one has a 5W 40 ohm resistor in series.  (The
>solenoid is not identified, but has 70 ohm resistance.)
>
>This sounds to me like a way of driving the solenoid hard to move the
>spindle down, then holding it with reduced current.  This is often
>done with a (big) cap across the current-limiting resistor.  The
>solenoid doesn't move all the way down with just the "hold" current.
>
>I don't have the original control software, so don't know what the
>original software control signals look like.  (IBC seems long gone,
>but may have had connections in the past with LPKF.)
>
>Does anyone have specific knowledge about what they intended as drive
>signals?  I was tempted to replace the two circuits with just one,
>with an adjustable one-shot to drive the solenoid full, then a gated
>PWM to provide the holding current.  (And replace those relays with a
>MOSFET.)  But then I wondered if drilling or milling required a
>different set of timing than straight engraving?  (In particular, I
>was imagining breaking a lot of 0.020" drill bits by driving full
>speed into the board.)  Any ideas?
>
>Thanks.
>
>--Dale
>
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