Thanks Jon. I would like a small form factor and SSD for rock solid reliability.
What do you guys think about these Mini-Boxes, I believe some people are familiar: http://www.mini-box.com/Mini-Box-M300 Igor On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Dave <[email protected]> wrote: > I would agree with Eric, I have used Advantech computers and I think > their biggest plus is form factor and convenience for industrial > applications. > > I think Advantech's reliability is less than good server hardware but > probably not better than standard commercial grade PCs. > > I have worked with a company that uses a lot of Advantech PCs for their > panels as they are convenient to mount, but when it comes to the data > center of the system they use high end server hardware > mounted in an air conditioned panel with hot swap drives setup in a raid > configuration for redundancy. The Advantech PCs are used as clients > to the data server. If they die they get swapped out but the data is > still safe. > > With the availability of good MicroITX boards and good chassis I think > Advantech type hardware is less relevant. > > I think you would be better off looking at high reliability server > hardware if you really want reliability and are willing to pay for it. > > Otherwise I think you are stuck with Mini Itx boards with fans and a > search for a really good power supply. You might want to look at Mini > Itx board that have onboard raid support. I think there > are a few out there that have that built in. > > Even so if you can avoid the bad capacitor situation and get a good > power supply and fan you should still be good for 5+ years. > > Dave > > On 10/22/2010 11:10 AM, Igor Chudov wrote: >> Supermicros are great. I have a 5 1/2 year old Supermicro based server >> from Thinkmate that I keep colocated at my ISP. >> >> The hard drive is showing errors (as they are all wont to do), but the >> box itself is great. I will soon take it home for a refit with a new >> HD and SSD and Ubuntu 10.04 (It runs Fedora at this time). >> >> Guys, what do you think about advantech boxes like this one: >> >> http://buy.advantech.com/product/industrialComputer/system-3293.htm >> >> Those are fanless, have low power consumption everything, Atom CPU, >> and take 24 VDC in. >> >> Again, I will use it for high importance, low power needs, like to >> host my CVS, be a nameserver, maybe a file server from a USB attached >> device. I want this box to last for, say, 10 years or more. >> >> i >> >> On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Dave<[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> What seems to kill PCs these days are bad capacitors and bad power >>> supplies. >>> >>> Hard drives simply wear out after a while. A SSD with wear leveling >>> gets rid of that problem. >>> >>> Server grade hardware seems to last a long time - SuperMicro boards in >>> particular seem very well built. I sold a customer over 20 systems >>> and not one motherboard has failed in 3 years. However they have lost >>> some power supplies. >>> >>> That said, you can buy several D510MO boards for the price of a >>> SuperMicro motherboard and CPU. >>> >>> I would install a fan in the chassis. A really good one, preferably a >>> large fan that runs at a low speed. If the fan costs $3.00 keep >>> looking. ;-) That will help minimize board hotspots and keep the >>> temps down. >>> >>> Put a filter on the fan intake or plan on blowing out the computer to >>> get the dust out every year or so. >>> >>> With good parts - 3-5 years should be easy and 7 years or more likely IMO. >>> >>> The trick these days will be finding a power supply that is made to >>> last. If you can find a mini-itx board with premium capacitors - you >>> be in even better shape. >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> >>> >>> On 10/22/2010 12:27 AM, Igor Chudov wrote: >>> >>>> I apologize in advance that this is somewhat off topic. >>>> >>>> I am beginning to feel a need to have a PC/server, to run Linux, that >>>> would be extremely reliable and long lasting. >>>> >>>> I would use it for >>>> >>>> 1) Holding a personal CVS repository >>>> 2) Running a nameserver >>>> 3) SSH port tunneling >>>> 4) Possibly serving files from an attached external storage device. >>>> >>>> None of the above tasks requires a great deal of CPU and file writing. >>>> >>>> I will not need a GUI on this machine. >>>> >>>> My own thinking about this includes: >>>> >>>> 1) A SSD to hold the data (as I said, I do not anticipate a lot of >>>> repetitive writes). >>>> 2) A fanless power supply >>>> 3) A very low power consumption CPU, like Intel ATOM. >>>> >>>> The objective here is low power, cool temperature, and absence of any >>>> rotating parts. >>>> >>>> Any thoughts on this? >>>> >>>> Thanks guys, and again, sorry for the OT post. >>>> >>>> i >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> Nokia and AT&T present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America >>>> contest >>>> Create new apps& games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and >>>> Canada >>>> $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in >>>> marketing >>>> Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store >>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Emc-users mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Nokia and AT&T present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest >>> Create new apps& games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada >>> $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing >>> Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Emc-users mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >>> >>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Nokia and AT&T present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest >> Create new apps& games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada >> $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing >> Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev >> _______________________________________________ >> Emc-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Nokia and AT&T present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest > Create new apps & games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada > $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing > Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store > http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Emc-users mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Nokia and AT&T present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps & games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
