John,

Thanks for the offer.  Unfortunately the customer wants to use true 
linear servo motor (like below), which is different than a servo actuator.

http://www.kollmorgen.com/en-us/products/motors/direct_drive_linear_motors/

They are crazy expensive.

I'm just going to advise them to go back and look at the Parker pricing 
that they had before and use that as a reference to see if they can
afford to use linear servos on their next machine.   I know they don't 
have the budget to use linear servos., but they think that since they 
are a high tech device
that linear servos, like flat panel TVs and computers, have probably 
fallen in price.

Dave

On 6/19/2011 7:07 AM, John Thornton wrote:
> Dave,
>
> If you want to give me the specific requirements I can fwd that to my
> rep and get a quote for you,
> they are pretty darn competitive and Parker is way over priced. We use
> these all the time on the
> assmebly lines in the worlds largest small engine factory located here
> in Poplar Bluff.
>
> John
>
> Dave wrote:
>    
>> John,
>>
>> Right, and those look like a good alternative to Parker Actuators like
>> you said.  I'll have to remember that.  :-)
>>
>> This customer wants true linear servo motors but they want them at
>> stepper motor prices...   I was wondering if the Chinese had started
>> making linear servos and driven the price down but apparently that is
>> not happening.
>>
>> I'm going to recommend that they go with another Parker Linear servo
>> setup if they want to use true linear motors.  That will be way outside
>> of their budget which should shock them back into reality so they begin
>> to talk about what they
>> can realistically afford.
>>
>> I'm sure you have seen this many times yourself;  They want a Cadillac
>> motion control system at a Yugo price.  :-(
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/18/2011 6:44 AM, John Thornton wrote:
>>
>>      
>>> You can use any servo with the Tolomatic actuators and they provide the
>>> proper mounting adapter for the motor.
>>> You just have to tell them when you order what your using. Also they
>>> have (what we use now a lot)
>>> a linear actuator with motor and drive all in one. You only need to
>>> provide power and digital signals to run
>>> programs built into the drive.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> Viesturs Lācis wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>>>> But there are no linear motors in Tolomatic page... Do I understand
>>>> correctly, that John is using Tolomatic's linear actuators with
>>>> Panasonic servo motors?
>>>>
>>>> Viesturs
>>>>
>>>> 2011/6/17 John Thornton<[email protected]>:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>          
>>>>> I've never priced them... I get my Tolomatic and Panasonic from Fluid
>>>>> Power in St. Louis.
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>            
>>>>>> Thanks John,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've never heard of Tolomatic so I will have to look them up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have you ever priced any Yaskawa linear servo motors and drives?   Are
>>>>>> they in the same price ranges as Parker?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/17/2011 7:40 AM, John Thornton wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              
>>>>>>> I use Tolomatic on all my linear applications, excellent service,
>>>>>>> quality components and much more cost effective than Parker. For
>>>>>>> industrial applications I pair their slides with Panasonic servos and
>>>>>>> drives which is usually controlled with a PLC.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dave wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>> Has anyone found a source of less expensive linear servo motors?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a client who really wants to use some linear servo motors to
>>>>>>>> retrofit some machines.   He doesn't really "need" them but he has some
>>>>>>>> Parker linear servo motors that I installed a couple
>>>>>>>> of years ago and he really likes them but they can't afford to pay the
>>>>>>>> big bucks for more Parker linear drives.  These are two axes machines
>>>>>>>> that look like lathes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The one long motor (Z axis)  has about a 40 inch stroke and 50 lbs of
>>>>>>>> force.
>>>>>>>> The other short motor (X axis) has about 30 lbs of force.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I believe that these two motors and drives were in the $12,000 range a
>>>>>>>> few years ago.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The motors I used before were ironless, I believe they were specified
>>>>>>>> that way to eliminate cogging since this is a very low speed 
>>>>>>>> application.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,  Dave
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                  
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