On 8/1/2011 12:04 AM, gene heskett wrote: > in answer to my earlier response to this thread which ended- > >> Were this my problem, at this point I'd dump* PCLinuxOS and install >> Ubuntu on your monitoring machine. I'd rather devote what time I have >> available to making things, but that's just me. >> > Unforch, ubuntu does this differently, including the gnome default, and a > totally different security scheme. I have been running kde since about a > week after the initial 1.0 release at least a good decade ago. > > Yes, I put up with gnome on ubuntu, usually long enough to find a konsole& > apt-get install kde. Finding the konsole can be a chore though, gnome > doesn't want its users to use a konsole, so every new release seems to hide > it one menu level deeper, and someplace that makes even less sense than the > last place they hid it. Hiding the most powerful tool the computer has > makes -1000 amount of sense to me. > > This is the play box, and pclos has been the single most stable install > over the last year of any install I have ever done. No crashes except in > kde, which between 4.0 and 4.4 was a disaster, but to make an omelet, one > does have to break a few eggs. At 4.6.2, its bulletproof. > > Well, Gene, I wouldn't dream of arguing the merits of different desktop environments. A systems-programmer friend of mine used to say "there's no accounting for taste."
<old-fart reminiscence on> When I started poking at Unix, "glass" terminals were just beginning to replace the venerable Teletype. The only way we could multitask was to get artful with the background/foreground commands. When I got heavily involved in CAD data exchange standards starting in the 80s, I ended up with a lab containing one of every major workstation so I could run interoperability tests on different CAD software packages. Every vendor had its own interpretation of the X-Windows system and its own desktop and libraries---porting CAD software was a nightmare. It wasn't until the early 90s that the Common Open Software Environment initiative with its Common Desktop Environment (CDE) started to impose some order on the chaos. Of course, some vendors refused to join and those that did persisted in introducing proprietary features to their CDEs. Porting software was still painful. I bear the emotional scars. The only thing worse to me than a desktop environment is the lack of one. </ofro> I'm sure you know, Gene, but for the benefit of other list members who may not, Gnome, KDE, LXDE, CDE, etc., are the "desktop environment" components of a Unix/Linux installation that provide much of the look and feel of a particular X-Windows system (I'll refrain from mentioning other windowing systems). These days there is a fair amount of interoperability. One can obtain Ubuntu distributions with different default desktop environments (Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu, yada yada yada) or one can install more than one desktop environment on a single Ubuntu platform (as you do when you apt-get kde) and choose during the graphical login process which one to use during a session. After a while, most folks settle on just one as you have with KDE. I will amend my previous email to state that running the LiveCD of Kubuntu 10.04LTS on my Dell also gives a successful result. I can ssh to an emc box and run glxinfo, glxgears, emc/Axis, etc, remotely. Wish I had time to sort out how to achieve the same result with PCLinuxOS. Regards, Kent PS - I tend to use the Linux capability to open a virtual tty (ctrl-alt-F1/F8) when I want a command-line console. Yeah, ya gotta login but it gives great freedom. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Got Input? Slashdot Needs You. Take our quick survey online. Come on, we don't ask for help often. Plus, you'll get a chance to win $100 to spend on ThinkGeek. http://p.sf.net/sfu/slashdot-survey _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
