On 8/1/2011 11:50 AM, gene heskett wrote:
> On Monday, August 01, 2011 11:17:11 AM Kent A. Reed did opine:
>
>> <blah blah blah>
>> I will amend my previous email to state that running the LiveCD of
>> Kubuntu 10.04LTS on my Dell also gives a successful result. I can ssh to
>> an emc box and run glxinfo, glxgears, emc/Axis, etc, remotely. Wish I
>> had time to sort out how to achieve the same result with PCLinuxOS.
> This is something I also took to the pclos forum.  Its a common complaint
> that so far no one has fixed that I know of.  I have not tried the neuveau
> (sp) driver since the nvidia driver is so well integrated.  For everything
> else, it Just Works(TM).
>
> \Pissed of at video old fart rant mode on\
>
> For a long time, every time ATI/AMD threw more code over the fence, I go
> out and spend 75-100 on an ATI video card, but every time I do, that card I
> just bought is obsolete and will not be supported by the time the code is
> ported to linux.  Heaven forbid they should support a card they sold by the
> jillions.
>
> Alex Deutcher at ATI has personally promised me support for the card I was
> thinking of buying, /before/ I bought it, and then reneged twice now.  Now
> if I had bought the $450 card, probably, (but I'll be damned if I spend
> more for a video card than for a motherboard) but no 'commodity' priced ati
> card has ever worked to play the news sites videos or youtube stuff.  I
> intensely dislike nvidia, but they at least supply a monthly build that
> Just Works(TM) with pclos.
>
> In fact, the last ati card I bought, which they claimed did work well with
> linux, was an XT-1600 in pci-e flavor that I bought to put in this box when
> I built it.  It would not even post in this $285 ASUS M2N SLI Deluxe
> motherboard!
>
> After that, I came to the conclusion that nvidia was the lessor of the two
> evils even if they do have a 5+ year time bomb failure mode.  Every video
> card that has failed on me, one even taking the mobo with it, was an
> nvidia.  2 of the 3 were in the emc box in fact but were also very old
> cards salvaged from curb pickups and the failure modes there were
> 'graceful' as in digital noise from bad on board memory sort of appearance.
>
> rant mode off
>
Gene:

It seems to me I wrote a screed to this list several years ago about 
hardware development being driven on the one hand by multimedia and on 
the other hand by gaming. Those are the markets that make the big bucks 
for the consumer-PC makers and those are the markets that drive the 
growth of nVidia and ATI. Their engineering targets are more GPUs, 
faster frame rates, and more shaders.

Sad to say, the reigning OS for these markets is MS Windows, not Linux, 
not BSD nor its derivatives like MacOS, nor others. It's hard enough to 
get Windows drivers that work as advertised. That's why I chose to 
support my CAD and AV programs on a reasonably hot home-built AMD and 
Radeon-based Windows7 box. More brute force and ignorance :-)

Good luck.

Regards,
Kent


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